On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jason Grout wrote: > > CCing sage-devel since this has turned into a devel discussion. The > > original thread is on sage-support. > > > > Joel B. Mohler wrote: > >> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 05:20:47 pm Joel B. Mohler wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 04:45:16 pm alex clemesha wrote: > >>>> With respect to the 'goal' of Sage's plotting (follow Mma), > >>>> I would say this is definitley a bug. > >>>> > >>>> People with 'violent' feelings about this apsect of the plotting > >>>> might want to change certain features of the plot code once and for all > >>>> :) > >>> Well, as I mentioned in my earlier post on this thread, I wasn't sure > what > >>> was intentional design. > >>> > >>> This thread > >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/c7445f921c8f > >>> 0e85/1c7420b369bc7baa left me quite confused when I complained the first > >>> time. > >>> > >>> I do have a patch which I apply everytime I have a critical output > quality > >>> plotting session. Actually, that patch is in the mentioned thread. It's > >>> quick and dirty, but it removes all extra margins (I think it has to > touch > >>> 3 places in the code -- i.e. 3 extra margin padding code-points -- really > >>> quite grotesque, and, I couldn't believe it was all by accident.) > >> Perhaps I should add here that I'm happy to produce a patch for this, but > I > >> didn't really feel like my ideals were the design goals of this plotting > >> code. That's why I didn't submit any patches earlier. The patch in that > >> other thread really is not intended to be applied -- I wrote it to do what > >> *I* wanted with no regards for any other flexible functionality. > >> > >> If I feel like we have a consensus on design, I will enshrine that design > in a > >> patch -- although, I'd be happy if someone beat me to it. I don't know > that > >> I myself have any specific design goals for this particular point aside > from > >> making the margins exactly what I say the margins are supposed to be -- It > >> could be that "exactly what I say" is a bit more nebulous than I'm aware > of. > > > > > > I played around with it for a bit this afternoon. I figured out one > > place to change, but the frame messed things up and I didn't see where > > to fix the margins added by the frame in the short time I looked at it. > > > > I was thinking of setting an explicit_ymin and explicit_ymax and if > > those existed, no auto-tuning would be done, or something like that. > > You've already worked on this, so no doubt you'd beat me to a patch :). > > > > While we're on the issue, it seems very clunky to have the parameter > > names called "ymin" and "ymax"; what if my variable isn't "y"? I'd like > > "plot_range=(-0.5, 0.5)" instead (or even "vertical_range", if we wanted > > to be extremely explicit). Again, for reference, in Mma it is > > "PlotRange". The Mma PlotRange parameter is quite a bit more flexible, > > though: > > > > > http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/PlotRange.html?q=PlotRange&lang=en > > > > > Also, Mma has a PlotRangePadding option, which seems to address the > issue that is noted above. > > http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/PlotRangePadding.html > > Jason
Jason, It is my strong desire that we follow the mathematica naming conventions and feature set for 2d plotting whenever this isn't totally wacky. Thus I'm all for any of your suggestions above about changing plotting to work more like in mathematica. William --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
