On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, alex clemesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> > On Tuesday 01 April 2008 04:45:16 pm alex clemesha wrote:
> > > With respect to the 'goal' of Sage's plotting (follow Mma),
> > > I would say this is definitley a bug.
> > >
> > > People with 'violent' feelings about this apsect of the plotting
> > > might want to change certain features of the plot code once and for all
> :)
> >
> > Well, as I mentioned in my earlier post on this thread, I wasn't sure what
> was
> > intentional design.
> >
> > This thread
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/c7445f921c8f0e85/1c7420b369bc7baa
> > left me quite confused when I complained the first time.
> >
> > I do have a patch which I apply everytime I have a critical output quality
> > plotting session.  Actually, that patch is in the mentioned thread.  It's
> > quick and dirty, but it removes all extra margins (I think it has to touch
> 3
> > places in the code -- i.e. 3 extra margin padding code-points -- really
> quite
> > grotesque, and, I couldn't believe it was all by accident.)
> >
> > This is why I think this thread right here is quite ironic -- you all
> suddenly
> > seem to be agreeing with me about margins ...
>
> Hi,
> I do very much remember the above thread that you mention,
> and I also like to say thanks for bringing up these kinds of issues,
> it's how the code gets better!
>
> When I wrote the first round of the plotting code, I had automated
> scripts that made 10's (100's even) plots with different parameters,
> and I tried to tweak the code to make everything look as "nice"
>  as possible. "nice" and "precise" aren't really the same thing :)
>
> Changes to Sage's plotting code, as well as changes to matplotlib
> have surely made some things different today.
>
>  Probably if you make some changes to the plotting code,
> and make some scripts that generate a bunch of plots give
> different parameters, and show improvements, everyone would
> agree to commit those changes!
>
>  If you where willing to do this, I for one would be very interested and
> thankful.
> You might find that generating tons of plots, then doing tweaking, is harder
> than you think, but is well worth it.

Joel,

Are you getting tired yet of people telling you things are harder
than you think?

:-)

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