On Feb 23, 11:39 pm, ataylor <originalbrickho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I talked with Mike Hanson (mentioned in the 2009 thread I found) about
> this around 2008-2009.  I am still interested in a sage-moodle
> integration.  I found the 2009 thread, but nothing since (maybe I'm
> searching the wrong words).

Dear Amelia,

Thanks for your continuing interest in this!   We've heard many
thoughts about this over the years, but no one with the needed
technical expertise has stepped forward.  I wonder if someone reading
this has done Moodle integration with something else?

> There are programs that satisfy both my criteria (relatively easy to
> write questions and can handle algebraically equivalent equations),
> but the one I know well is MapleTA which requires Maple and a separate
> server for MapleTA.  I'm at a college that not only does not have
> Maple, we are considering replacing the system we have (Mathematica)
> with Sage across the curriculum.

:)

> I do not have the expertise to do this myself (in either Sage or
> Moodle, but do have the expertise to use both if a good marriage was
> made and definitely enough to evangelize if someone ever makes the
> marriage).

We need lots of those, too.

> I have a sample quiz/set of questions I'd like to use in this
> marriage, if that would be helpful to anyone.  I am hoping that this
> is long since solved and I just don't know where to look to set it up
> and responses will be something like, "Silly you, go here to set this
> up."  But if not, will someone please solve this?  I'm tired of being

Unfortunately, in an open source project this depends on who has the
time, expertise, *and* interest.

Do you know if Geogebra has done this?  I think that might be a way to
see whether there are some "hooks" in Moodle that would enable this to
be done easily.

> directed to programs that are either prohibitively expensive or only
> allow for expert users to upload problems from textbooks (WeBWork)
> rather than allowing people like me with some programing aptitude, but
> no time to be experts to write the problems we want.

I'm cc:ing one of the primary developers of WeBWorK and another
colleague of his about this, as I've talked with them on a number of
occasions about this issue.  WW is very aware of this, which is why
they are trying to enhance their problem library so that you can find
the problems you need :)

They may also have some concrete ideas for how Sage and Moodle might
integrate, since WW and Moodle have worked together for a while and
now understand how Sage works much better.

One caveat: Just having a CAS in Moodle probably won't be enough to
make questions.  Having a system know how to treat equivalent answers
the same is nontrivial to do from scratch - just see the huge ads for
WebAssign in the Notices of the AMS each month, which conveniently
ignore that WW *is* fully capable of doing this.

One final thought; you may want to look at http://aleph.sagemath.org/
and some of the recent discussion about it on sage-notebook and sage-
devel.  There is enough documentation now that anyone with even a
modicum of web development experience could embed Sage in webpages.

Good luck!  Hopefully a few others will have useful thoughts.

- kcrisman

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