On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 11:55 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:19 AM E. Madison Bray <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > There is also an existing hard-coded list of function names that are
> > actually what's used for dir() and tab-completion, completely separate
> > from this module.  AFAICT this all_documented_functions module isn't
> > really used anywhere in Sage, and doesn't turn up much in the
> > documentation.  As Alex  Konovalov pointed out to me, the "example" in
> > all_documented_functions of doing `from
> > sage.libs.gaps.all_documented_functions import *` is probably not a
> > good idea in most cases anyways.  For example:
> >
> > sage: DihedralGroup(8)
> > Dihedral group of order 16 as a permutation group
> > sage: type(_)
> > <class 'sage.groups.perm_gps.permgroup_named.DihedralGroup_with_category'>
> > sage: from sage.libs.gap.all_documented_functions import *
> > sage: DihedralGroup(8)
> > <pc group of size 8 with 3 generators>
> > sage: type(_)
> > <type 'sage.libs.gap.element.GapElement'>
> >
> > Oops, this clobbers multiple existing built-ins in Sage.  Alex also
> > suggested that using IsDocumentedWord like this was perhaps
> > ill-considered in the first place.
> >
> > Given that it isn't actually used anywhere in Sage, and is not
> > particularly documented, and mostly seems to cause problems, it would
> > be best just to remove this?  Does anyone use it?
>
> it's used for tab completion and as well for directly calling libgap functions
> (otherwise you need to call libgap's function_factory on them):

It isn't though.  You and Volker both seem to be confusing two
different things, unless I'm missing something.  Grep the sources
yourself: The module sage.libs.gap.all_documented_functions is not
referenced anywhere outside of itself:

$ grep -R all_documented_functions src/sage
src/sage/libs/gap/all_documented_functions.py:    sage: from
sage.libs.gap.all_documented_functions import *

What *is* used to provide directory/tab-completion is a different
module called sage.libs.gap.gap_functions, which just contains a
hard-coded list of strings naming various GAP functions.  In fact I
recently updated [1] this list because it contained some globals which
are not functions, as well as a few that no longer exist:
https://git.sagemath.org/sage.git/commit/?id=60d7eb69ffa7d402495717148879906639324244

Actually, it would be good at least if the list in this module were
tested to ensure it remains valid.  When I updated it I did something
like

for name in common_gap_functions:
    try:
        func = libgap.eval(name)
    except Exception as exc:
        print("{} possibly missing? Error: {}".format(name, exc)
        continue

    if not IsFunction(func):
        print("{}: not a function".format(func))




> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 4:52 PM Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is basically the tab completion list in the Sage/libgap interface. 
> > > As you found out, creating it on the fly is way too slow. Hence we cache 
> > > a reasonable list of names.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 9:52:53 AM UTC-5, E. Madison Bray wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In the sage.libs.gap package, in the assigned_names.py module, there
> > >> is a function called just list_functions() [1] which is documented to
> > >> "Return the GAP documented global functions".
> > >>
> > >> This is used in the all_documented_functions.py [2] module to create
> > >> Python wrappers for "all documented GAP functions, they can be thought
> > >> of as the official API of GAP".
> > >>
> > >> This turns out to create a bit of a problem: The GAP function
> > >> IsDocumentedWord, which this code uses to determine if a function is
> > >> "documented", works by searching for the function's name in all
> > >> documentation known to GAP.  By default this is just the standard GAP
> > >> reference docs.  However, if you have any GAP packages installed, it
> > >> will *also* search the docs for those packages.
> > >>
> > >> If you have lots of packages installed that means this is *extremely*
> > >> slow, even if we're just searching for terms that we only care about
> > >> being in the main GAP docs.
> > >>
> > >> Though perhaps it is a faulty assumption that this is "the official
> > >> API of GAP" in the first place.  Or at the very least, perhaps we
> > >> don't really need to care about whether or not the function is
> > >> "documented", and that just returning all global functions is good
> > >> enough for a first pass.
> > >>
> > >> But I'm not sure.  Volker wrote this code originally so he would know
> > >> best.  But what do we want to present as the "API" provided by Sage's
> > >> GAP interface?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [1] 
> > >> https://gitlab.com/sagemath/sage/blob/master/src/sage/libs/gap/assigned_names.py#L118
> > >> [2] 
> > >> https://gitlab.com/sagemath/sage/blob/master/src/sage/libs/gap/all_documented_functions.py
> > >
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