On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 10:19 AM E. Madison Bray <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There is also an existing hard-coded list of function names that are
> actually what's used for dir() and tab-completion, completely separate
> from this module.  AFAICT this all_documented_functions module isn't
> really used anywhere in Sage, and doesn't turn up much in the
> documentation.  As Alex  Konovalov pointed out to me, the "example" in
> all_documented_functions of doing `from
> sage.libs.gaps.all_documented_functions import *` is probably not a
> good idea in most cases anyways.  For example:
>
> sage: DihedralGroup(8)
> Dihedral group of order 16 as a permutation group
> sage: type(_)
> <class 'sage.groups.perm_gps.permgroup_named.DihedralGroup_with_category'>
> sage: from sage.libs.gap.all_documented_functions import *
> sage: DihedralGroup(8)
> <pc group of size 8 with 3 generators>
> sage: type(_)
> <type 'sage.libs.gap.element.GapElement'>
>
> Oops, this clobbers multiple existing built-ins in Sage.  Alex also
> suggested that using IsDocumentedWord like this was perhaps
> ill-considered in the first place.
>
> Given that it isn't actually used anywhere in Sage, and is not
> particularly documented, and mostly seems to cause problems, it would
> be best just to remove this?  Does anyone use it?

it's used for tab completion and as well for directly calling libgap functions
(otherwise you need to call libgap's function_factory on them):

sage: libgap.SymmetricGroup(3).Order() # SymmetricGroup is in the list
6
sage: libgap.ImfMatrixGroup(12,3) # ImfMatrixGroup  is not there
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
AttributeError                            Traceback (most recent call last)
<ipython-input-8-86e9cd3d6fbf> in <module>()
----> 1 libgap.ImfMatrixGroup(Integer(12),Integer(3))

/mnt/opt/Sage/sage-dev/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/misc/lazy_import.pyx
in sage.misc.lazy_import.LazyImport.__getattr__
(build/cythonized/sage/misc/lazy_import.c:3536)()
    320             True
    321         """
--> 322         return getattr(self.get_object(), attr)
    323
    324     # We need to wrap all the slot methods, as they are not forwarded

/mnt/opt/Sage/sage-dev/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/libs/gap/libgap.pyx
in sage.libs.gap.libgap.Gap.__getattr__
(build/cythonized/sage/libs/gap/libgap.c:6229)()
    668             g = make_any_gap_element(self, gap_eval(name))
    669         else:
--> 670             raise AttributeError(f'No such attribute: {name}.')
    671
    672         self.__dict__[name] = g

AttributeError: No such attribute: ImfMatrixGroup.

sage: libgap.function_factory('ImfMatrixGroup')(12,3) # but this works
ImfMatrixGroup(12,3)

----
Best,
Dima
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 4:52 PM Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is basically the tab completion list in the Sage/libgap interface. As 
> > you found out, creating it on the fly is way too slow. Hence we cache a 
> > reasonable list of names.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 9:52:53 AM UTC-5, E. Madison Bray wrote:
> >>
> >> In the sage.libs.gap package, in the assigned_names.py module, there
> >> is a function called just list_functions() [1] which is documented to
> >> "Return the GAP documented global functions".
> >>
> >> This is used in the all_documented_functions.py [2] module to create
> >> Python wrappers for "all documented GAP functions, they can be thought
> >> of as the official API of GAP".
> >>
> >> This turns out to create a bit of a problem: The GAP function
> >> IsDocumentedWord, which this code uses to determine if a function is
> >> "documented", works by searching for the function's name in all
> >> documentation known to GAP.  By default this is just the standard GAP
> >> reference docs.  However, if you have any GAP packages installed, it
> >> will *also* search the docs for those packages.
> >>
> >> If you have lots of packages installed that means this is *extremely*
> >> slow, even if we're just searching for terms that we only care about
> >> being in the main GAP docs.
> >>
> >> Though perhaps it is a faulty assumption that this is "the official
> >> API of GAP" in the first place.  Or at the very least, perhaps we
> >> don't really need to care about whether or not the function is
> >> "documented", and that just returning all global functions is good
> >> enough for a first pass.
> >>
> >> But I'm not sure.  Volker wrote this code originally so he would know
> >> best.  But what do we want to present as the "API" provided by Sage's
> >> GAP interface?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] 
> >> https://gitlab.com/sagemath/sage/blob/master/src/sage/libs/gap/assigned_names.py#L118
> >> [2] 
> >> https://gitlab.com/sagemath/sage/blob/master/src/sage/libs/gap/all_documented_functions.py
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