Le dimanche 23 septembre 2018 08:18:21 UTC+2, Dominique Laurain a écrit :
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> Travis : "I'm sorry, but that really sounds like "I want to get really 
> good without practicing".
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> My hobby time credit is quite limited and there is a hugge difference 
> between "without practicing" and good dev time management inducing  
> *awareness* about the main Tools (or how to make good code being lazy, or 
> taking account NIH). ... "without practicing" is a RTFM answer.
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> Travis : "From my experience, the biggest issue that prevents people from 
> fixing bugs in Sage is getting used to our development workflow and 
> learning how to work with git (and more generally, version control 
> software). "
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> My main concern or the main reason why I am not prone for fixing bugs is 
> the workflow too...but not because of learning new Tools.
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> Apart from fixing "small bugs", modifications could be rejected by a "peer 
> review" ... so why wasting time ?  
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Dominique : a "peer review" is not a boolean accept/reject. A rejection 
*has* to be  motivated. Maybe there are things to be *learned* from the 
motivation of a rejection ? 

Just as a theorem, a patch has to convince your interlocutor(s) that you 
are right. In other words, it is not sufficient to be right : you have to 
*prove* that you are right...

Yes, there is also the possibility of punctilious and/or pigheaded 
reviewer(s). In that case, why not take advice from other participants ?

Granted, this makes the Sage development process a bit of a debating 
society. But the academic world *has been* a debating society since 
inception (about a millenium ago). It survived...

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> If peers are only the judges for a final result and not the helpers, why 
> give time with no reward.
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Who should judge ? your grocer ? ;-) 

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> For example : why correcting bugs in a graph package .... if all the 
> graphs code will be soon removed from the sagemath modules, because of a 
> "wonderful" new peer idea ?
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Hey ! If you think that the "new peer"'s idea is bad, feel free to 
criticize it (and even reject it) *with motivation* ! As long as your 
criticism is in good faith, your interlocutor will learn from it.

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> Dominique.
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