On 11 October 2016 at 01:03, Victor Shoup <sh...@cs.nyu.edu> wrote: > First, you are definitely wrong about punch cards. I started programming > with Fortran on punch cards in the 70s.
Punch cards? They were a great advance on paper tape which is what *I* started on. To correct a typo in your program you had to read the whole tape in, make the correction, and punch out a whole new tape! Cards were so much easier as you could just replace one card. That was 1970 I think.... > > Second, a complete transition to auto tools still feels like overkill at > this point. > But I agree that it could come one day. With a lot of help (from people on this thread and for the same reasons) I went through that agony with eclib. I don't regret it but I would not want to do it again! John > In any case, I am almost done with all the requested changes. > I will follow up with a couple of quick questions, though. > > > On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 5:09:48 PM UTC-4, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 9:09:38 PM UTC+1, François wrote: >>> >>> On 11/10/16 01:58, Victor Shoup wrote: >>> > Another issue. I'm not sure if $(MAKE) is specific to gnu make or if it >>> > is universal. >>> > In general, I don't want to assume gnu. But I can certainly make this >>> > the default, >>> > and provide a config variable to override. >>> >>> I'll have another go at this when you use >>> $(MAKE) inside a makefile you are making sure >>> that the make command used is the same one that >>> you called on the initial makefile. >>> >>> As other people mentioned it enable parallel make >>> to proceed nicely, and in the case where there is >>> several make command installed on the system >>> you avoid funny things happening. I have AIX >>> system which comes with its own posix make >>> command. Something like ntl probably require >>> gmake (GNU make), calling AIX make in the >>> middle is not a good idea. >>> >> >> Perhaps the most natural solution would be to change NTL build system so >> that >> it uses the standard autotools chain (autoconf/automake etc), not only >> libtool. >> Given that it uses very few external libraries, it ought to be an easy >> task. >> >> Given that I am perhaps the only person in this thread who learned to >> program using punch cards, >> I am a dinosaur from an earlier period, yet, I look into the future :-) >> >> Dima >> >> >> >>> Francois > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.