On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Vincent Delecroix
<20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 17/09/15 17:10, William Stein wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> it would be useful to revive the discussion of a
>>>>> true SageMath Foundation, separate from SMCI of course, whether
>>>>> incorporated
>>>>> in the US or Europe (or elsewhere), but it sounds like there wasn't
>>>>> currently enough interest in helping with the substantial paperwork
>>>>> involved
>>>>> in this as of yet.  But if this existed it might help support some of
>>>>> the
>>>>> other Sage infrastructure needs, beyond the *.math.washington.edu
>>>>> resources
>>>>> this thread was supposed to be about :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Such a foundation isn't going to happen any time soon, at least not
>>>> with me the one doing it.  I talked extensively with a partner at
>>>> Fenwick & West, and was advised that it is currently basically
>>>> impossible for an "Open Source Software Not for profit" to get 501c3
>>>> status these days in the US.  The IRS used to look favorably on such
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, that is really depressing.  It would be interesting to poll various
>>> US-based OSS organizations that have such foundations (if any exist) to
>>> see
>>> how long ago they got such status.  Certainly being on a mailing list for
>>> UW
>>> is preferable to no option for donating at all!
>>
>>
>> You should be able to get removed from that list -- and I will try to
>> make it so they remove everybody that was added due to donating to
>> Sage Foundation.
>
>
> Sorry for the naive question: why such fondation needs to be based in US?

I'm not a lawyer, but I think the main point is for donors to be able
to get tax benefits for donating.  For US donors, this means that the
foundation needs to be registered with the IRS as a nonprofit of some
kind (501c3 or otherwise).  For European donors, the requirements vary
somewhat by country.  There's a tradeoff between the paperwork, time
and money needed to register with each country and the amount you
expect to receive from residents of that country.  Since the US has a
larger population than any single European country, that's why the
discussion usually focuses on it as a US foundation.  Of course,
having a French, English or German organization would be great too,
but requires work.
David
>
> Vincent
>
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