On 02/19/2015 09:21 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> 
>> I don't think software was ever delayed for debian.
> If people are against #16997 because it's not compatible with Debian, 
> then Debian is *already* slowing down Sage.
> 

It's not incompatibility with Debian that's the problem. Having
dependencies like "whatever was in the git repo at 11:00 on 2015-02-19
UTC-5" leads to madness. Debian won't do it, because it leads to
madness. So doing things that lead to madness are incompatible with
Debian. The cause and effect are the other way around =)

Bundling the git repo is a short-term solution that bones everyone else
(and possibly us, too, if upstream starts reverting commits). A better
solution would be to work with them, settle on a set of commits that are
definitely going to stay, and make a release. Yes, it's more work *right
now*, but most good ideas are.

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