Hi Volker,

On 2014-11-26, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Really, much of the 2-week discussion was just cultural confusion about 
> what a code of conduct is. Mostly from the non-Americans who have never 
> seen such a thing. And I understand your culture shock in that regard. On 
> the other side were people that are quite familiar with codes of conducts 
> in other organizations and were just as rightfully confused that we can't 
> even agree on being nice to each other.

What you seem to not understand, Volker, is that Sage has grown far
beyond a US project. So, "a code of conduct is an American thing" is not a
good argument for having a code of conduct.

And to repeat it since you seem to ignore it: Some people (I think I have
not been the only one) see the clear possibility that in future we will
behave less nicely towards each other *because* of a code of conduct.

I did not want a code of conduct *because* I want a civilised atmosphere
in the Sage community.

And you may notice that some of the recent posts here already went into
the direction of instrumenting the questionable authority of a code of
conduct in order to bash people, assuming that people have bad intentions
when they just did an awkward translation.

That's a very bad symptom, IMHO!

> Also, during the lengthy discussion there were very few concrete actionable 
> suggestions for changes.

Yes there was. The suggestion to delete the code of conduct was very
concrete.

Best regards,
Simon


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