On 14 November 2014 13:18, Ondřej Čertík <ondrej.cer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 14, 2014 8:57 AM, "Bill Page" <bill.p...@newsynthesis.org> wrote:
>>
>> It seems to me that we should forget about x and y.  All we really need is
>>
>>  |z|'  = d |z| / d z = conjugate(z) / (2*|z|)
>>
>> and the appropriate algebraic properties of conjugate.
>
> Sure, we can make a CAS return this. But then you get the 1/2 there.
>

Yes.

>> ...
>> The constant 1/2 is irrelevant.
>
> Well, but how do I recover the real derivative from the complex one if they
> differ by a factor of 1/2?
>

What do you mean by "the real derivative"?  Perhaps we can just define that as

  d f / d z + d f / d  conjugate(z)

> In other words, what is the utility of such a definition then?
>
> I can see the utility of differentiating with respect to x, as at least you
> must recover the real derivative results.
>

You are not differentiating with respect to x, you are differentiating
with respect to

  (z+conjugate(z))/2

Bill.

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