On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 5:55 AM, John Cremona <john.crem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27 October 2014 12:37, Nathann Cohen <nathann.co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yo !
>>
>>> This is good argument to support (only) []-style argument for several
>>> elements. Be consistent within same program. Or in Sage terms, "Build a car,
>>> don't let it look like bicycle combined to tractor." :=)
>>>
>>> Btw, why gcd([]) returns zero? At least there is inconsistency with lcm([])
>>> returning one. I guess they should both return one or raise an exception.
>>
>
> It is not inconsistent, any more than this is:
>
> sage: sum([])
> 0
> sage: prod([])
> 1
>
> and the reason is essentially the same.
>
>> I would say that it is because for guys doing number theory Z/2Z is
>> associated with 2 and Z is associated with 0. Think of 0 like the
>> infinity, or the product of all integers.
>
> I don't quite follow that but as a number theorist here is how I would
> explain it.  If you write a loop to read in integers and output their
> sum, you just add each new one to the runing total, after initializing
> this total to:  0
>
> Same but for products: you have to initialize to 1.
>
> Same but for gcd:  each updated result is the gcd of the running
> "total" and the new input.  Must be initialised to: 0.

Here's another number theorist's perspective.   I think of the gcd(X)
as a canonical generator for the ideal generated by X, when defined.
The ideal generated by a set X is the smallest ideal that contains it.
  In case X is the empty set, that ideal is the 0 ideal (not the unit
ideal).

 -- William

-- 
William Stein
Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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