>
> > I think the lack of progress on sagenb is much more due to the 
> > *simultaneous* existence of the (for now, beta) Jupyter and SMC 
> projects. 
> > Nearly all effort that would have gone to sagenb has gone in those 
> > directions - and I'm not criticizing those projects, just recognizing 
> > reality. 
>
> In addition note that there was little [1] progress on sagenb for 
> years before Jupyter=IPython and SMC existed.  This might be because  


"Year" maybe.  There was no major work, I guess, but Keshav and Jason G. 
both did quite a bit in 2012, including switching to git and MathJax etc. 
 But progress really slowed down once Sage cell and SMC took off (I forgot 
Sage cell earlier).  It probably didn't help that just when it had finally 
moved from devel/sagenb to code.google.com, then it was moved to github.
 

> people who learn about modern web development realize that sagenb was 
> written/rewritten mostly in 2006-2009 [2], and that web development 
> technology (both frontend and backend) has progressed dramatically 
> since then.  They might thus not be motivated to work on sagenb. 
>
>
That would be outsiders.  I'm talking about people already actively using 
Sage and sagenb, who would have a motivation for this independent of that. 
 As many have said, most programming is maintenance...
 

> [1] There was a rewrite of the frontend UI of sagenb, which wasn't 
> quite released...  The last serious work I can remember on sagenb was 
> Mike Hansen switching it to use flask and that was quite a while ago. 
>
>
I thought that was also Rado et al., but anyway.
 

> [2] Not only that, but sagenb doesn't even use a database, so it feels 
> more like it was from the 1990s...  (my fault.) 
>
>
Yeah, the more I look at the code the more I have a feeling that accounts 
for a lot of its slowness with many users.  But don't worry; sagenb is 
nowhere NEAR the oldest technology used on our behalf on a daily basis, I'm 
sure, even if we're not aware of it... 
e.g. http://jobs.monster.com/v-it-q-cobol-programmer-jobs.aspx

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