On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Martin Albrecht <martinralbre...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I was motivated by this thread to look into pip again. I like it, so +1 for > inclusion. > > We might e.g. drop SQLAlchemy in return,which would Sage smaller instead of > bigger. It is trivial to install using pip, it seems no code in the library > depends on it, and the version we are shipping is very old.
+1 to dropping SQLAlchemy. If it used by any optional packages, they can just install it. Shipping an old version of SQLAlchemy means shipping a probably buggy broken version too, which isn't something anybody should use anyways. For those who don't know, the main point of SQLAlchemy is to provide a very Python wrapping around MySQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite. It's pretty powerful/amazing if you're seriously using one of those tools, e.g., for web apps... but we're not in standard Sage. William > > Cheers, > Martin > > On Wednesday 23 Apr 2014 15:46:50 William Stein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There used to be a lot of confusion about which package manager / >> installer one should use with python -- easy_install? setuptools? >> etc. >> >> Now the choice is clear: pip -- A tool for installing and managing >> Python packages. >> >> See https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip >> >> pip is amazing -- you can actually install/upgrade/remove Python >> packages (see below), unlike the mess that we had to deal with for >> years. We should pay attention to the existence of this tool. >> >> I think we should include pip with Sage, especially since installing a >> package manager is always a little _weird_. Right now, one installs >> pip by doing this: >> >> sage -sh >> wget https://raw.github.com/pypa/pip/master/contrib/get-pip.py; >> python get-pip.py >> ---- >> >> >> [ ] Yes, make pip a standard part of Sage. >> >> [ ] No, pip does not belong in Sage. >> >> >> >> >> ------ >> >> ~$ pip --help >> >> Usage: >> pip <command> [options] >> >> Commands: >> install Install packages. >> uninstall Uninstall packages. >> freeze Output installed packages in requirements >> format. list List installed packages. >> show Show information about installed packages. >> search Search PyPI for packages. >> wheel Build wheels from your requirements. >> zip DEPRECATED. Zip individual packages. >> unzip DEPRECATED. Unzip individual packages. >> bundle DEPRECATED. Create pybundles. >> help Show help for commands. >> >> General Options: >> -h, --help Show help. >> -v, --verbose Give more output. Option is additive, >> and can be used up to 3 times. >> -V, --version Show version and exit. >> -q, --quiet Give less output. >> --log-file <path> Path to a verbose non-appending log, >> that only logs failures. This log is active by default at >> /projects/3702601d-9fbc-4e4e-b7ab-c10a79e34d3b/.pip/pip.log. >> --log <path> Path to a verbose appending log. This >> log is inactive by default. >> --proxy <proxy> Specify a proxy in the form >> [user:passwd@]proxy.server:port. >> --timeout <sec> Set the socket timeout (default 15 seconds). >> --exists-action <action> Default action when a path already >> exists: (s)witch, (i)gnore, (w)ipe, (b)ackup. >> --cert <path> Path to alternate CA bundle. -- William Stein Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
