On Monday, September 2, 2013 10:46:24 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On 2013-09-03, rjf <fat...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > Octave, Maxima, Sage.... > > vs > > Matlab, Mathematica, Magma > > > > It seems that people want professionally supported products > > (whatever that might turn out to be, in reality). And they do not > > care so much about open source. > Who do you mean by "people"? These who have more than a couple of billions > in the > bank? > I was thinking of the professors at colleges who use Matlab themselves and require that their students use Matlab as well. I was also thinking of the people who develop and sell applications that use Matlab as a base. I was thinking of research projects like Chebfun which use Matlab, and even make use of object-oriented programming stuff.
> Magma lobbists did a good job on Simons, indeed. > So with one hand the foundation publishes things like > https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130222-in-computers-we-trust/ > I just read this. In my opinion, it shows some professors (Teleman at Berkeley, for example) of being -- at best -- peculiar. It shows Zeilberger using Maple (not free) > and with the other (which does control the money) > does a funding step so much out of line with this publication... > > It seems like these two hands not only don't coordinate with each other, > but are actually unaware of each other's existence... > > By the way, have you ever used Magma or Matlab yourself? > I have used Matlab occasionally, beginning when it was just a (free, open source) FORTRAN library. At one point I wrote a Matlab parser (in Lisp), with the intention of making a simulation in Lisp. Macsyma has such a feature, though Macsyma is not distributed, really. I do not recall using Magma, though I think I used Cayley to try out. I recall being quite unfavorably impressed by the "language" part of Cayley, and the revision of the language represented by Magma was not, in my opinion, a good one. To save you trouble doing a reality check, > you might like reading this: > http://abandonmatlab.wordpress.com/ > > I think the person writing this really doesn't understand who is using Matlab and its toolkits, and why. There are many critiques of Matlab, and this one is probably among the least relevant I have seen. What about a critique of Matlab from the perspective of (say) its eigenvalue routines? Or its speed compared to LAPACK. That would be relevant. > > > RJF > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
