Hi all, thanks Hans-Gert for explaining. So my understanding is this: you're redesigning Symbolic Data and would like Sage to use the web-interface in the future instead of relying on that crufty hack that is my SymbolicData SPKG? That sounds like a good idea.
Andreas also mentioned to use Sage as a backend, I am not clear yet what that means exactly, it seems it means more than the above? On Friday 12 Jul 2013, Hans-Gert Gräbe wrote: > Am 11.07.2013 19:23, schrieb Martin Albrecht: > > Hi all, > > > > to be honest I don't really get yet what exactly you are trying to > > achieve. Perhaps you could write a longer description of your project > > (plans) for [sage-devel] and then people there can jump in? > > Hi Martin, > > you probably know about the roots of the SymbolicData project (if not, > read more about that at <http://symbolicdata.org/wiki/History>). > > In 1998 the PSC (Polynomial Systems Community) was faced with an (also > nowadays well known) effect: The Posso and Frisco projects supported > with EU money for several years collected a huge list of Polynomial > System Benchmarks, but access was irregular and the end of the money was > (more or less) the end of the "public" availability of the Data. > > A main problem of such efforts - you cannot grade on them and usually > also not put it in the focus of a project proposal - became more > dominant and recognised during the last years (by the way, a problem > best known in other communities as, e.g., experimental physics). > > Around 2000 Olaf Bachmann and me (at those times also working in PSC) > took such efforts outside of any project. We were well supported ideally > and also with compute resources by the Singular team, that Olaf was a > member of, and later on by the Fachgruppe. Olaf left at the end of 2000 > and I pushed the project actively until 2003. At this time I had to > switch to SW Engineering and had drastically to reduce my activities in > PSC. Conerning SD I concentrated forces on redesign according to > upcoming XML standards. > > Some enthusiasm came up around the 2006 Groebner Year in Linz, but it > was a flash in the pan concerning SD. > > In 2012 I could place a project proposal within the within the Saxonian > E-Science Project and togehter with Andreas refactoring of SD according > to Semantic Web standards is on the way. Our motivation is to have SD > as non trivial use case for application of Semantic Web concepts and > technologies (SWT). > > We collected our part (that ends in Aug 2013) and can probably divert > some resources from upcoming SWT projects to run the infrastructure for > some time, but surely are not the people to coach the PSC needs in the > future. > > We developed a new philosophy around the old ideas - SD as an > intercommunity project as explained in the report > <http://symbolicdata.org/wiki/Events.2012-12> of the December 2012 > Workshop - and the intercommunity part is clearly on the focus of SWT > and the (broader) upcoming interests of Andreas and me. > > But intercommunity requires that there are communities, in particular > PSC, that really care. Hence Ralf asked the correct question - who needs > the f.. Polynomial Systems collection? Voluteers to the frontier! > > If no one cares then no one needs it, and it is time to change the > field. I hope I was clearly enough. > > Best regards, > Hans-Gert Cheers, Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6532AFB4 _otr: 47F43D1A 5D68C36F 468BAEBA 640E8856 D7951CCF _www: http://martinralbrecht.wordpress.com/ _jab: martinralbre...@jabber.ccc.de
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