On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM, R. Andrew Ohana <andrew.oh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've created a repo on github: github.com/ohanar/sagescripts
>
> Much of the backbone has been setup, although I've ported very few
> actual scripts (the ones there are mainly to test that my generating
> code actually does what I want it to).
>
> The way it is setup is pretty basic:
>
> Scripts will still be written in bash and python (located in the
> src/bash and src/python directories respectfully), however, command
> line options and help text are separated from the scripts.
>
> Instead, to include a script in sage, an entry to src/scripts_setup.py
> is needed, as well as providing command line options and help text.
> The scripts in src/{bash,python} can assume that certain variables
> will be set w.r.t. the command line options (better description to
> come :) ).
>
> Currently there is quite a bit of missing functionality (python
> scripts, scripts that won't be accessible as a subcommand of sage,
> help printing for some subcommands, etc), and the syntax/names of
> src/scripts_setup.py is not ideal, however, moving over most bash
> scripts should be relatively easy at this point in time.

If I understand right, you're proposing replacing our scripts with a
custom bash script-generator that passes arguments to other shell
scripts via command line variables? And creating subcommands would
require a mix of bash, your custom module, and Python? This seems like
an unnecessarily complicated layer of abstraction.

Why not let the top-level sage script just set up the environment and
dispatch to the (again ordinary shell or python or ...)
sage-subcommand executable? All you need is a subcommand -> script
mapping (or just a list of valid subcommands, if the mapping is
consistent). Perhaps "sage help subcommand" could become "sage
subcommand --help" but in general the logic should be quite simple,
and I think this would be both more flexible and easier to
follow/develop/debug.

> Also, I would like to decouple the sage-scripts spkg from sage
> releases, since in many cases it seems like the only change is a
> version bump. I've added SAGE_VERSION and SAGE_RELEASE_DATE to
> sage-env, which can hopefully remedy this.
>
> -----
>
> Pertaining to the whole `sage script.sage` vs `sage run script.sage`,
> what if made a default mode -- if we cannot match $1 to any sage
> subcommand (or ambiguity thereof), then sage-run would be called with
> $@. This would also be nice for `sage pkg` where we could set the
> default command to install (since that will be the most common use of
> `sage pkg`).
>
> As for #!'ing stuff, `sage foo` can also be called as `sage-foo`, so
> long as the scripts are in PATH, SAGE_ROOT is set, and foo is not just
> an external program (such as python or sqlite3).

Sure.

> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 02:46, Robert Bradshaw
> <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On 3/2/12 2:55 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think sage foo ... should default to running bin/sage-foo (in the
>>>> sage environment) if it exists, and treat foo as a file otherwise.
>>>> Virtually no argument parsing (aside from understanding --) would be
>>>> involved here, and the decision to use bash/python/... would be
>>>> delegated to the subscripts. "sage sh ..." would be sufficient for the
>>>> "-C" option suggested, but "sage gap" and "sage gp" etc. would be
>>>> natural to have directly. "sage run" could be provided to treat its
>>>> argument(s) as files too.
>>>
>>>
>>> -1 to magic parsing of 'sage foo'.  What if sage-foo was later added to
>>> sage?  Then things would break for people.
>>
>> This is true regardless of the calling mechanism. Subcommands should
>> be added with care. I wasn't proposing calling "foo" for any foo in
>> the sage-environment path.
>>
>>> I like the idea of 'sage run foo' to run foo.  How would that be added to a
>>> script file, though?
>>>
>>> #!/path/to/sage/sage run
>>> do some commands
>>
>> I think we still need to keep "sage path/file.sage" around. The
>> hash-bang convention is convenient, but limited.
>>
>> - Robert
>>
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