On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 15:37, Justin C. Walker <jus...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 14:16 , R. Andrew Ohana wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:30, Justin C. Walker <jus...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 08:13 , R. Andrew Ohana wrote:
> [snip]
>>>> FYI, sqrt5 has been down for awhile since it is extremely prone to
>>>> kernel panics and I have yet to figure out the issue. My guess at this
>>>> point in time is that these are due to it using the 32-bit kernel,
>>>> which apple clearly isn't supporting any more -- the main requirement
>>>> of 10.8 over 10.7 is support for the 64-bit kernel.
>>>
>>> Is this true?
>>
>> Positive:
>>
>> $ uname -pr
>> 11.3.0 i386
>>
>>>  My 10.7 system has a 64-bit kernel, at least according to 'file':
>>>
>>> $ file /mach_kernel
>>> /mach_kernel: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
>>> /mach_kernel (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
>>> /mach_kernel (for architecture i386):   Mach-O executable i386
>>
>> OSX has included extensions in the 32-bit kernel to execute 64-bit
>> code since leopard (or potentially earlier), this only indicates that
>> the kernel + hardware supports executing 64-bit code.
>
> I don't think this is really correct.  This is what the Apple website says:
>
> =========
> These Macs use the 64-bit kernel by default in Mac OS X v10.6.
>
>        • Mac Pro (Mid 2010)
>        • MacBook Pro (Early 2011)
>        • iMac (21.5-inch and 27-inch, Mid 2011)
> =========

Yes, although for lion it seems to be a much larger number of systems.
>
> I'm running the MacBook Pro (Early 2011).  'uname -pr'
Looking at another system that has booted with the 64-bit kernel it
seems that -p does not distinguish, but -m does:

sqrt5:~ uname -m
i386

sage1:~ uname -m
x86_64

'file /mach_kernel' matches on these two systems

> says what you report, but I think that is the "basic ISP" architecture, which 
> is, and I assume will be, i386.
>
> The kernel being  "x86_64" means that it actually runs in 64-bit mode.
>
> Justin
>
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