On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 14:13, John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John H Palmieri <jhpa...@gmail.com>
>>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, William wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> A major blocker for Sage-5.0 is supporting OS X (version 10.7 --
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> version that has been out for months now).
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Fortunately, it is now "relatively easy" to build sage-5.0.beta1
>> >> >>>> on
>> >> >>>> OS
>> >> >>>> X 10.7 with XCode 4.x, and have it start up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After building Sage on OS X 10.7, "make test" did this:
>> >> >
>> >> > For the record, running tests with "sage -t devel/sage/sage" yields
>> >> > hundred(s) of failing files:
>> >> >
>> >> >   http://wstein.org/home/wstein/tmp/test-sage-5.0.beta1-osx10.7.txt
>> >> >
>> >> > It could be that most of these boil down to some code at the core of
>> >> > PARI (the bezout function) being miscompiled.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is a discussion about this from August 2011 here:
>> >> >
>> >> >   http://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/archives/pari-dev-1108/msg00000.html
>> >> >
>> >> > It unfortunately appears based on the mailing list -- and searching
>> >> > through the ** 5 months ** since then -- that nothing at all was done
>> >> > to try to fix the problem, even though I had setup access to 10.7 for
>> >> > the Pari developers.   Probably the main problem is that the machine
>> >> > I
>> >> > setup -- sqrt5.math.washington.edu -- is on the CS network, and for
>> >> > some reason it keeps getting kicked off.
>> >> >
>> >> > This really sucks.   Maybe I can rewrite their bezout to get around
>> >> > the problem.
>> >>
>> >> Another option is to turn of optimization (-O0) when building part of
>> >> PARI under XCode 4.x, since the problem is bad compiler optimization.
>> >>   I just tried, export SAGE_DEBUG="yes", then building PARI with
>> >> SAGE_CHECK="yes", and I get: "The PARI self-tests all passed".
>> >>
>> >> So something based on optimization flags is the workaround I'll pursue
>> >> for now.   Something that is slightly slower than optimal is way
>> >> better than infinitely slower.
>> >
>> >
>> > I've been trying to build Sage with OS X Lion over the past few days,
>> > and
>> > things are going pretty well: there are a few doctest failures, but I
>> > think
>> > most are numerical noise.  Most spkgs build just fine, but because of
>> > bugs
>> > in Apple's compiler, a few -- pari, gsl, symmetrica -- have problems
>> > unless
>> > we modify them.  So I propose the following modifications in the
>> > spkg-install scripts for those packages:
>> >
>> >  - check to see if running Lion, and if so
>> >  - check to see if /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 exists.  this might be available
>> > from an
>> > older installation of XCode, or it can be installed using the gcc
>> > package
>> > Georg posted a link to: http://r.research.att.com/tools/.  If it's
>> > there,
>> > set CC=gcc-4.2.
>> >  - otherwise, turn off optimization (compile with -O0) for those
>> > packages.
>> > This seems to avoid the bugs, although it will slow down those specific
>> > pieces of code.
>> >
>> > Opinions?
>> Do we know which files build incorrectly, we should only set the flag
>> for those (and not the whole library).
>
>
> I tried that and still got self-test failures.  I didn't try all possible
> combinations of compiling some files with -O3 and some with -O0 until tests
> passed.

Well that is fair :)
>
>>
>> Also, we should see if -O1
>> works too.
>
>
> No, it doesn't.  I tried that.

Too bad
>
> [snip]
>
>> I've started looking into the difficulties of getting sage to build
>> with clang (on lion), and have made some progress on the sage
>> libraries.
>>
>> Using CC=clang, CXX=clang++, and SAGE_CHECK=yes for all spkgs except
>
> I thought I had tried this with pari and had failures, but now it seems to
> work.  In an existing Sage build, installing cvxopt this way doesn't work
> for me -- I get self test failures -- but maybe setting CC=clang (etc.) and
> building the whole thing from scratch will work better.

Hmm, now I'm getting self test failures, however the package seems to
still be installing for me. I wasn't paying attention during the whole
build process, so this may have happened before as well.
>
> Please keep working on this; it sounds like you're getting somewhere.

I plan to, although I think I'm going to move to working on a system
where sage works (such as sage.math), and then hopefully the changes I
make there apply to Lion.

You should continue working on the lion issues. If you need/want,
William has a few lion systems to test/work on, if you would like an
account just let me know.

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