On Jan 30, 2012 5:12 AM, "Nathann Cohen" <nathann.co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody !!!
>
> I wondered why we still had .py files in our library. Some time ago
> this made sense as there were Python features that were not available
> in Cython -- like the yield keyword -- but now that they are, what is
> the point ? I'm asking this because we have in the Graph classes which
> are "copies" of each other, that is for instance a file
> generic_graph.py and a generic_graph_pyx.pyx, whose purpose is obvious
> : we want to be able to define some methods as Python ones, some
> others as Cython ones.
>
> Well, what is the point of having .py files anymore when we could
> easily rename them to .pyx without changing anything in them (first --
> is that even true or am I a bit optimistic ?) and be able to add some
> Cython code inside when Python is so awfully slow ?

If you ever change a filebfrom Python to Cython for no clear good reason, I
will be very annoyed.  One should always use Python instead of Cython
unless there is a clear compelling reason not to.

Cython code...

- takes a long time to compile
- is much harder to interactively debug sunce you can't run python code in
the stackframe's context (yet)
- requires more knowledge for devs to use thus reducing the maintainability
of sage
- is not always faster than pure python
- does not support 100% of Python language features
-

> Cython is good, Cython is beautiful, Cython is fast. Thanks to Cython
> I can finally write Sage code which fails on weird architectures and
> spend days fixing the bugs, which is way harder with plain Python.
>
> Thankssss for your thoughts ! :-)
>
> Nathann
>
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