Why not move this thread to the sage-windows group? John
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Apr 20, 10:20 pm, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Perhaps even farther off topic; >> I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ >> most MS_Windows >> folk - from THEIR point of view. >> The path to getting Cygwin/X up and running "usefully" on a MS_Windows >> platform >> is long and arduous for the naive user, e.g. it was so for me. > > one probably won't need X11 part, if the graphics is handled via the > notebook/browser. > The only things needed from the user would be to start Sage "server" > application, which > can be just one click, and then open the browser to connect to it. > > In fact, deploying an application that uses cygwin.dll is trivial --- > Sage is of course > much more, as it needs a subset of the development environment to take > advantage of Cygwin etc. > >> >> Oracle (Sun) VM_VirtualBox installs as a MS_Windows program. >> It is "culturally compatible" with everything the user is used to. >> The learning curve to then install a standard Linux distro, e.g. >> Ubuntu or Debian, then Sage within that is quite trivial. >> VMware is another possibility, although I think that isn't "free". >> >> For Sage to be adopted WIDELY by windows users the path >> to getting it up and running needs to be simple and reasonably quick. >> Cygwin /X does not (yet) offer that. >> >> For my very simple needs/wants there has not been a performance >> issue with Vista->VirtualBox->Debian->Sage, although it would seem >> that Vista->Cygwin/X->Sage may perform better simply by having >> one fewer layers - Yes/No ? > > the VM performance hit might be relatively minor, but the amount of > resources a VM > takes is quite big, compared to Cygwin. > >> >> On Apr 19, 7:27 am, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being >> > ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a >> > couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts currently underpinning Sage, >> > and we'd probably have to convert those to Python or something to make them >> > portable to Windows, right? Does anyone know what benefits we would gain >> > from not using cygwin? >> >> > -Keshav >> >> > ---- >> > Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel > URL: http://www.sagemath.org > -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
