On Apr 20, 10:20 pm, RegB <2regburg...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Perhaps even farther off topic; > I doubt that Cygwin (Cygwin/X) is in any case a good path for many/ > most MS_Windows > folk - from THEIR point of view. > The path to getting Cygwin/X up and running "usefully" on a MS_Windows > platform > is long and arduous for the naive user, e.g. it was so for me.
one probably won't need X11 part, if the graphics is handled via the notebook/browser. The only things needed from the user would be to start Sage "server" application, which can be just one click, and then open the browser to connect to it. In fact, deploying an application that uses cygwin.dll is trivial --- Sage is of course much more, as it needs a subset of the development environment to take advantage of Cygwin etc. > > Oracle (Sun) VM_VirtualBox installs as a MS_Windows program. > It is "culturally compatible" with everything the user is used to. > The learning curve to then install a standard Linux distro, e.g. > Ubuntu or Debian, then Sage within that is quite trivial. > VMware is another possibility, although I think that isn't "free". > > For Sage to be adopted WIDELY by windows users the path > to getting it up and running needs to be simple and reasonably quick. > Cygwin /X does not (yet) offer that. > > For my very simple needs/wants there has not been a performance > issue with Vista->VirtualBox->Debian->Sage, although it would seem > that Vista->Cygwin/X->Sage may perform better simply by having > one fewer layers - Yes/No ? the VM performance hit might be relatively minor, but the amount of resources a VM takes is quite big, compared to Cygwin. > > On Apr 19, 7:27 am, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Perhaps a bit off topic, but is there any possibility of Sage ever being > > ported to Windows natively, i.e. without cygwin dependencies? We have a > > couple thousand lines worth of shell scripts currently underpinning Sage, > > and we'd probably have to convert those to Python or something to make them > > portable to Windows, right? Does anyone know what benefits we would gain > > from not using cygwin? > > > -Keshav > > > ---- > > Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
