Hi Robert,

On 29 Dez., 20:04, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu>
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Simon King <simon.k...@uni-jena.de> wrote:
> > ...
> >  sage: G = SymmetricGroup(5)
> >  sage: C = Groupoid(G)
> >  sage: G.random_element() in C.hom_category()
> >  False
>
> > Shouldn't the last line return "True"?
>
> Hmm... Groupoid is the wrong category here. Or, rather, the category
> we want is a groupoid, but not this one.

Yep, what I wrote was nonsense. See my post at sage-algebra,
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-algebra/browse_thread/thread/3e2ca2a8be1a3a23
(I think this discussion should be moved to sage-algebra):

If g is an  element of G, then "g in C.hom_category()" should of
course return "False", since g is not a homset (but it is contained
in  a homset).

Note that we currently have
  sage: R.<x,y,z> = ZZ[]
  sage: f = R.hom([x^2,y^2,z^2])
  sage: C = R.category()
  sage: f in C.hom_category()
  True
which I think is a bug.

I think one *should* test the property of being a morphism by
"parent(g) in Groupoid(G).hom_category()" (which is not implemented
yet) resp. "parent(f) in C.hom_category()" (which works already).

> I'd say it would make sense to implement Actions as a mapping G x S ->
> S', which is essentially what the implementation is now. There should
> be functions provided to view this as a map G -> Hom(S, S') and as a
> functor, but the inheritance is certainly odd and wrong the way it is
> now.

OK, then let's make it so.

> Should containment be for morphisms, objects, or both?

See above: Not "g in C.hom_category()" but "parent(g) in
C.hom_category()".

Cheers,
Simon

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