On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Rob Beezer <goo...@beezer.cotse.net> wrote:

> Abelian groups is second on my list (right after graphs + latex), but
> as I've been told, "many have failed here."  So I'd get out of the way
> (or help) if anybody else is interested.
>
> And I have a vested interest in permutation groups......
>
> Rob
>


Can we get a list together of all of those who may be interested in
contributing to the rewrite of permutation groups on some level? We can move
to an in-depth discussion and inventory. I don't want to flood the
sage-devel list with too much, unless there are those who think the
discussion should remain here.

I'm currently on vacation, until just after Memorial Day, and so I have
limited time to respond until then. Otherwise, I'd personally like to
coordinate and work on this during the summer months, as when courses start
in the fall my time for this won't be as great. (I'm guessing that is true
for others, depending on your locations.) Let me know if you think that
schedule, i.e., late August, is too ambitious. If you think it is too far
down the line, then you may care to remember Hofstadter's Law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter's_law<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law>

We could also save the work for a Sage Days and do this in person if there
is insistence on that.

Rob: I think your experience using the permgroup methods in your teaching
can be used a lot for building usability in that area. I know some others in
your situation who are not on the sage-devel list and I will see if they are
interested in helping from the non-developer perspective. Myself... I'm most
interested in building a concrete permutation group structure that allows
for more advanced computations and research. From what I've heard in the
centralizer, subgroup and tableaux discussions, I think our fundamental
needs are relatively the same.


Jason B. Hill

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