On May 16, 1:37 am, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's about time http://sagemath.org got totally reworked for improved
> usability and simplicity.

A design idea from last year is here: (you need safari or firefox,
doesn't work in ie)

http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/schilly/www3/

The main difference is that the menu is on the left and each sub-point
is always visible. That saves clicks and you always see a thematically
structured map of all pages. I'm happy to hear about some feedback or
ideas how to make it better - then I can re-implement it so that also
IE is happy.
Technically, layout is oriented on the left and there are fewer
graphics. That speeds up the page even further, download and
rendering!

> And our website should have a couple randomly chosen [quotes]
> and displayed in a sidebar.

I've started that a while ago here: http://sagemath.org/inc/quotes.shtml
as a replacement for the random links at the bottom. (It's just one
quote, but there is room for 10)

> discussion lists

Personally, when maintaining the website, my main problem is that they
get created but nobody tells me about them. I just don't automatically
think about adding them to the page if i read about them some time
later.

> download page

Well, there is no javascript involved at all and nothing is guessed by
javascript - it's done via ssi on the server. If it is ok to use
javascript, I can create an intelligent select dialog for the download
process, just like on other pages. It's just that when I started to
create the page the requirement was that all essential functions
should work w/o javascript. So, if it is ok to create a dialog in js
i'll do it. As a fallback for js-disabled browsers I can add a link to
the mirrors.

And btw, the download link at the top menu was pointing to the
detected operating system, but then i got mails that this is confusing
because there are users who use windows but want to download linux
binaries. So, there is no simple solution and all such simplifications
need a visible fallback to the general case.

H

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