On May 15, 2010, at 7:41 PM, mhampton wrote:
I really don't like the plethora of discussion groups. I'd be happy
with sage-support and sage-everything-else. I find it very hard to
keep up with things I care about with the current setup. Many issues
do not cleanly fall into a particular category.
There are several people who used to provide a lot of good input that
have stopped reading sage-devel because it simply became too high
traffic and too many messages were irrelevant, but I agree with your
main point. It seems like many of the "lists" below are not used at
all, and probably shouldn't be suggested (or, if they're listed, for
archival purposes only). Here's my take:
sage-announce -- low traffic, but easy for people to subscribe to to
keep in touch
sage-combinat-devel -- high volume, relatively self contained, good at
cc'ing sage-devel when needed
sage-flame -- safety valve so off topic and inflammatory comments
don't poison the other lists
sage-edu -- it seems several people are interested in this, but not in
sage-devel or sage-users
sage-marketing -- same as above (maybe?), and quite different in focus
than sage-devel, but probably coincides a lot with the above.
sage-release -- probably better named sage-build. Not everyone needs
to know that some doctest failed on some alpha on some random piece of
hardware (but some poeple do need to know this). Porting issues would
fall naturally here as well.
sage-windows -- lots of specific stuff here, but possibly once cygwin
is actually a regular build platform it could be sage-release material
sage-notebook -- important if we're trying to spin this off
sage-nt -- I'm on the fence with this one, but there are a fair amount
of number theory specific people. (Is anyone on that list not in sage-
devel? Could be more useful if the sage-nt-support side is more
emphasized.)
sage-* Not listed above, not
As I said before, I think it makes sense to only split things out if
they're sufficiently high volume and sufficiently different audiences/
topics. Especially the development stuff is very interrelated, and
branches of math aren't as distinguishing as, say, education vs.
research. It may also make sense to ask if there are people who would
sign up for that list but not sign up for sage-devel/support. Some
stats below for the curious:
- Robert
---------------------------------------------------------
• sage-algebra – discussion and development of algebraic
functionalities
12 members, 3 posts ever
• sage-announce – release announcement
1423 members, this list serves a different purpose
• sage-combinat-devel – combinatorics
124 members, 1009 posts this last year
• debian-sage – Debian port
38 users, 18 posts this last year (used to be quite used, but not much
going on here recently)
• sage-finance – finance
53 users, no posts this last year. (Had two months of high activity in
2008.)
• sage-flame – flame wars
31 members, 333 posts this last year. (Again, serves a different
purpose.)
• sage-grid – scientific grid computing
10 members, 3 posts ever
• sage-marketing – coordinates promotion efforts, marketing
materials, posters, information sheets, etc.
25 members, 171 posts this last year (though less than a year old)
• sage-notebook – development of a standalone notebook server
73 members, 686 posts this last year (also less than a year old)
• sage-nt – number theory
90 members, 271 posts this last year.
• sage-release – release management
59 members, 871 posts this last year (and getting more regularly used)
• sage-solaris – Solaris port
6 members, 3 months old, 19 posts ever (we got 2000 solaris messages
on sage-devel last year, now build issues are mostly sorted out on
sage-release)
• sage-windows – Microsoft Windows Port
70 members, 491 messages this last year (some months have no messages,
last month had 112).
Comparatively, we have
- sage-devel
1186 members, 15482 posts this last year
- sage-support
1719 members, 7416 posts this last year
- sage-edu
314 members, 705 posts this last year
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