Dave, The libraries are OK to include--- I was under impression is that you propose to include basically the whole toolchain... Sorry for a misunderstanding.
Dima On Feb 22, 6:41 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote: > Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > On Feb 22, 4:15 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <david.kir...@onetel.net> > > wrote: > > [...] > >> I think once again, it shows that gcc's C, C++ and Fortran libraries > >> should all > >> be included with Sage. Otherwise, the build relies on the end user having a > >> similar setup. This is not specific to Solaris, but one can probably get > >> away > >> with not doing this more on Linux, as generally Linux will come with some > >> semi-recent compiler. But if someone does not have the compiler installed, > >> or > >> has an old version, it is quite possible the binaries will break on Linux > >> too. > > > IMHO, this seems to go too far... If someone does not have a decent > > modern toolchain > > installed on his exotic (or not) hardware, that really should not mean > > that Sage must be > > even more bloated by including standard tools that are trivial to > > install. > > But not everyone has those tools, and they are not always as trivial to > install > as you believe. I suspect in many cases you need to be root to install them. > > We already include the fortran library I believe. William has said before he > was > going to include the C++ library. > > Obviously the size of the libraries would depend on the individual system, but > on my Solaris system, if I compress with gzip, I get > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 drkirkby staff 1.5M Feb 22 10:10 libstdc++.so.6.0.10.gz > -rwxr-xr-x 1 drkirkby staff 717K Feb 22 10:10 libgfortran.so.3.0.0.gz > -rw-r--r-- 1 drkirkby staff 80K Feb 22 10:10 libgcc_s.so.1.gz > > so it adds in total around 2.2 MB to a binary distribution. Given the gzip'ed > binary distribution on Solaris is 500 MB (and that is not untypical of any > distribution), it is adding less than 0.5% of bloat. > > Two people recently discovered their Sage binaries broke just because they > upgraded gcc from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 on one linux platform (Archlinux if I recall > correct). > > To me at least, adding the libraries, which is less than 0.5% of bloat, is a > small price to pay to ensure that someone's binaries will run. > > It should be noted, that the library someone is already most likely to have > (the > C library) is only 80 KB compressed, so that is very small indeed compared to > the Fortran and C++ libraries. It's the absence of the C++ and Fortran > libraries > that seems to cause the most problems for people, but if we include them, it > makes sense to include the much smaller C library too. That way, all library > versions are the same. > > Dave -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
