On Jul 15, 10:14 am, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:53 AM, rjf<fate...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That blog said "the symbolic math software community has been burned
> > in the past by people profiting from proprietary extensions of BSD
> > code without attribution or contribution."
>
> > (the blogger said the Sage people say this).
>
> > I don't know if this claim originated at Sage, or if Sage people
> > believe it.
> > If they believe it, I would be interested in learning of a single
> > example of someone who was burned.
>
> This email is flame bait. You are asking people to post examples of
> specific acts that made other people feel "burned".
I was kind of expecting you to say, "I don't know where the blogger
got that idea,
but it wasn't from Sage."
It seems, though, you are confirming it!
So, without mentioning any specifics, could you perhaps estimate how
many instances there are of people in the symbolic
math software community, people using software under BSD, who feel
burned? Like how many
are you personally aware of? I am aware of none (zero).
There may be people who think that their elliptic curve program, which
they gave away, is making someone (else) rich.
But let's be serious. Outside of people selling systems like
Mathematica and Maple [or even including them!] is anyone
getting rich?
> I do not think it
> is appropriate to have this discussion on sage-devel. The discussion
> should be offlist (because it could easily offend people)
Sure. You can always send me email.
> or on
> sage-flame:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-flame
You can have a discussion there, but then I wouldn't see it.
>
> > In any case, the idea that someone should be "burned" by another
> > person using what was freely given away, makes no sense.
>
> In my experience, when somebody complains about something and it
> doesn't makes sense to me, this often means I don't genuinely
> understand the situation or the person is not expressing themselves
> sufficiently clearly for me to understand.
It doesn't even make sense to me why anyone should complain to you
about
BSD software re-use, so I would consider this (don't understand)^2.
RJF
RJF
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