On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM, William Stein<wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Fernando Perez<fperez....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Fernando Perez<fperez....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The time for the Scipy'09 conference is rapidly approaching, and we
>>> would like to both announce the plan for tutorials and solicit
>>> feedback from everyone on topics of interest.
>>
>> rather than rehash much here, where it's not easy to paste a table,
>> I've posted a note with the poll results here:
>>
>> http://fdoperez.blogspot.com/2009/06/scipy-advanced-tutorials-results.html
>>
>> The short and plain-text-friendly version is the final topic ranking:
>>
>> 1 Advanced topics in matplotlib use
>> 2 Advanced numpy
>> 3 Designing scientific interfaces with Traits
>> 4 Mayavi/TVTK
>> 5 Cython
>> 6 Symbolic computing with sympy
>> 7 Statistics with Scipy
>> 8 Using GPUs with PyCUDA
>> 9 Testing strategies for scientific codes
>> 10 Parallel computing in Python and mpi4py
>> 11 Sparse Linear Algebra with Scipy
>> 12 Structured and record arrays in numpy
>> 13 Design patterns for efficient iterator-based scientific codes
>> 14 Sage
>> 15 The TimeSeries scikit
>> 16 Hermes: high order Finite Element Methods
>> 17 Graph theory with NetworkX
>>
>
> Wow, Sage sure is low on the list of interest for people. It is
> useful to know how little interest there is in sage among the scipy
> crowd :-).
I have to add that not only is Sage very low on the above list, Sage
got the *most* "no" votes from the 30 people who actually voted (tying
only with Networkx), according to the table here:
http://fdoperez.blogspot.com/2009/06/scipy-advanced-tutorials-results.html
I don't know if I should interpret this as:
(1) Sage doesn't at all provide what is needed by "the scipy community", or
(2) The scipy community has a strong opinion that in fact sage is
worse than useless.
It might also be relevant that Sage, Hermes, and Networkx (in the
bottom 4) are all GPL'd, but the top 7 packages by interest in the
list above are all non-GPL (BSD or MIT licensed). It may just be
that whoever voted are mostly people who believe they can't use GPL'd
code.
Anyway, I find Fernando's justification for the ranking "the ranking
roughly follows the generality of the tools" to be an unsatisfactory
explanation or summary of the data. Rather, perhaps the ranking
roughly follows the restrictiveness of the *license*.
William
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