On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:01 PM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Related to this whole thread, note there are various web options from
> the Ms which, though more likely generated because the technology was
> there in terms of the Web, perhaps are less restrictive than they
> might have been due to open source alternatives.  Of course, it could
> also just be good marketing :)
>
> There is MapleNet (http://www.maplesoft.com/demo/maplenet.aspx), which
> seems to sort of function like the Sage notebook server, except with a
> very slowly-loading Java thing of course.

Very very very slow loading... I tried the "integrate app", and it's
still loading over a minute later, and after I've explicitly agreed to
run signed java apps twice. It just came up, but it doesn't work
(there's no way to enter a function).  Maybe it is a Firefox or OS X
bug.

The next maplenet thing I tried (special functions) sort of works but
has this big scary message: "Legal Notice: The copyright for this
application is owned by Maplesoft. The application is intended to
demonstrate the use of Maple to solve a particular problem. It has
been made available for product evaluation purposes only and may not
be used in any other context without the express permission of
Maplesoft."

> A rep at this past JMM
> confirmed that, although there would be no technical barrier to it
> functioning like the Sage NB server (i.e. unlimited access to a
> worksheet), the licensing they provide would require the customer to
> restrict access to the number of users (e.g. students) which the
> customer has paid for usage.  Still, a step in the right direction for
> allowing people to use it without knowing how to use it.

Those java applets don't look anything like a notebook to me.

> webMathematica is similar, doesn't seem to allow access to a general
> Mma notebook at this point.  The rep at the Mma booth suggested,
> however, that there may be some better solution coming in terms of
> licensing/payment.  What this means is anyone's guess.  However, the
> fairly recent introduction of functions.wolfram.com, the Integrator,
> and the Player/Demonstrations Project certainly make it plausible that
> at least another incremental step of that nature could be in the
> offing at some point.  Since there are already lots of free graphing
> programs on the web, perhaps that would be a natural one - but this is
> pure speculation.
>
> Anyhow, if the availability of Geogebra, Sage, YACAS, and other more-
> or-less web-or-applet-enabled OSS math software has contributed to
> this, that is good.  Somehow I doubt this effect will ever be
> quantifiable (even if real, see previous posts), but the presence of
> Sage etc. as *visible* projects should help motivate proprietary
> programs to try to stay several steps ahead in all areas - at least in
> the eyes of their current customers - which is a salutary effect.

This is all only good from my perspective if it motivates us as Sage
developers to stay several steps ahead.

 -- William

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