Firefox has an extension which does exactly this (to any text form
cell on any web page) called "It's all text", which I use
occasionally.  That means that for firefox users your new package is
-- I think -- redundant.

For example, in replying to this in gmail I could have clicked
something to make an emacs window pop up to compose my reply in.  That
is sometimetimes useful -- though not for simple things like this
message!

john

2008/10/14 Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> (My first message didn't seem to go through, so I'm trying this again.)
>
> Recently I've been working on WYSIWYG editing for the text cells of
> Sage.  I've made an spkg for the TinyMCE javascript editor.  The idea is
> that you can double-click on any text cell and, in-place, a TinyMCE
> editor pops up that lets you edit HTML code in a familiar word-processor
> sort of environment.  I think this will make editing text in a worksheet
> *much* easier and more accessible.
>
> Information for this program
> ----------------------------
>
> Website: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
>
> License: LGPL
>
> Demo of TinyMCE: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/examples/full.php (this
> includes a lot of plugins I don't plan on including because I think it's
> better to be simpler).
>
> Trac tickets: #4255 and #4267
>
> I've made an spkg for TinyMCE and relevant patches to enable its
> functionality at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4255.
> Unfortunately, it also is intertwined with spkgs and the patch up at
> 4267, so to try it out, do the following:
>
>    1. Apply the jeditable-tinymce.patch patch from #4255
>    2. Apply the make-javascript-spkgs.patch patch at #4267
>    3. Install all of the spkgs listed at #4267, except the
> jsmath-images spkg if you don't want.
>    4. Optionally, apply the extcode patch at #4267, which deletes the
> packages from the extcode directory.
>
> Then please read the instructions on the ticket to try this out;
> creating text cells is still not completely obvious. I am working on
> making creating text cells easier soon. The patch makes it so that Sage
> checks to see if TinyMCE is installed before enabling the features, so
> it's not necessary that TinyMCE be a standard spkg.
>
> Note that the jqueryui spkg at 4267 will change the default theme for
> interact sliders.  This is purely a cosmetic issue and can be reverted
> back to the theme we currently have.
>
> The TinyMCE javascript editor is very actively developed.  TinyMCE has a
> nice plugin architecture and includes capabilities such as a WYSIWYG
> table editor, the standard formatting commands, a special
> paste-from-word feature that does a decent job of letting you paste
> directly from a word document into the html cell, etc.  It is very
> cross-platform and cross-browser (see
> http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Compatibility).  The main
> competitor to TinyMCE is FCKEdit, and from what I've seen and
> read, TinyMCE generates cleaner HTML code.  TinyMCE is the
> standard editor bundled with Wordpress (popular blogging software), and
> a list of CMS systems which either have a TinyMCE plugin or include it
> in the software are listed at
> http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:CMS_systems.
>
> Another person's review of javascript editors is here:
> http://www.garretwilson.com/blog/2008/07/27/javascriptxhtmleditors.xhtml,
> which concludes that there is no perfect, or really even really good,
> javascript editor, but TinyMCE is the best available.
>
>
> The downside to using TinyMCE is that it adds another 150k or so to the
> javascript downloads (using the plugins that I enabled in it).  However,
> usually this is cached by the browser, so it is a one-time cost.  If we
> ever figure out how to turn on the automatic gzip compression on twisted
> connections, this downside will be dramatically reduced. Even with the
> extra 150k, though, I feel that the usability benefits far outweigh the
> costs.
>
> So, do you vote
>
> [ ] Yes, include TinyMCE as a standard package
> [ ] Yes, include TinyMCE as an optional package
> [ ] No, do not include TinyMCE as a package
>
>
> I personally think that the most prudent choice now is to include it as
> an optional package, merge the patch at #4255, and let a few people try
> it out.  I hope to have easy text-cell creation done "real soon now",
> which would enable people to just shift-click on the "add-new-cell" line
> and get a new text cell with a TinyMCE edit box if it's installed.  I
> would hope then that we could include TinyMCE in as a standard package.
>  I think this would make sage notebooks much friendlier to people
> wanting to annotate the mathematics with prose and explanation.
>
> Of course, questions are welcome.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
>
> >
>

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