As the outgoing editor-in-chief of the LMS-JCM (London Mathematical Society Journal of Computation and Mathematics) (for the next 5 days, when Derek Holt takes over), and also an editor of the Journal of Algebra's Section on Computational Algebra, I feel obliged to ask exactly what the new journal(s) will provide which existing ones do not. The JCM is all-electronic. See here (http://www.lms.ac.uk/jcm/editorial.html) for its aims and scope, which explicitly include source code and tables and the like, which traditional journals do not have space for.
I am definitely not saying that there's no room for anything new in this area, but I am interested to know what the LMS JCM is not doing which it could be. Of course, it may just be that none of the j-sag board have heard of it, and if that is the case then I should certainly know that! John Cremona 2008/9/25 root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> Hi. Dan Grayson sent Greg and me a message letting us know about this >>> discussion and I thought it might be helpful for if I joined the >>> discussion as one of the managing editors. >> >><SNIP> >> >>> I'm delighted that the journal has generated so much discussion. >> >>Yes, I think that forces between the different efforts in this area (I >>am aware of M2, Sage and also something in that direction by Daly and >>Traverso around Axiom) should coordinate/merge since having three >>competing journals might not be best situation. This obviously depends >>on agreeing on a bunch of things like the license of the content and >>so on and since none of the journals has actually gone beyond the >>planning stage and put out an issue it remains to be seen what is >>happening. >> >>One thing that I see as a tiny problem is that right now it is the >>"Journal of Software for Algebra and Geometry" while at least of JSage >>(the Sage one to make it 100% clear) there was at least the >>possibility to go "beyond" algebra and geometry. Since we have not >>done anything in that direction the journal is vaporware for now, so >>the whole point might me moot. > > Dr. Traverso (Univ. Pisa) and I have had many discussions about a > "live" or "literate" journal. The key concept is that the publication > should include the actual source code necessary to reproduce the > results in a particular version of a target system (e.g. Sage 3.1). > > There are many fine points to discuss and debate but I think it is > vital to keep the research results with the actual implementation. > The current journal/conference/thesis mechanisms do not do that, > almost certainly because of their paper-based legacy. > > If "reference" versions of the CAS programs were available then > these could be used to reproduce the results. Perhaps a CAS reference > site would be appropriate. > > I'm not much concerned about the focus on Algebra and Geometry since > an idea has to start somewhere and an over-general attempt might fail. > I am hopeful that this journal can demonstrate the key concepts. > I'm willing to volunteer time and energy to make it happen. > > Tim Daly > Axiom > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
