On Jul 20, 9:43 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:03 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi David,
> > Ok, we had some discussions off list about Solaris support in general
> > and back then the possibility of setting up a Sparc with Solaris 8
> > came up, so I could have "my own" box to do the port.
>
> I've very rarely to seen Solaris 8 mentioned on comp.unix.solaris, but
> I guess that people reading that are more likely to be keen on
> Solaris, and so run late editions.
>
> > Ok, good to know. I don't know the "rules" over there, so thanks for
> > clearing that up.
>
> That was the last I knew. I was going to contribute something, and
> have an account, but this messing around to generate Solaris 8 x86
> packages put me off.
I can imagine.
> > Solaris 9 on x86[-64] was never officially available IIRC and Solaris
> > 8 on x86[-64] ought to be a rarity these days since Sun treated
>
> I've run Solaris 7 on x86, but not any more. Not sure what other CDs I
> might have in folders somewhere.
Sure, pre Solaris 9 existed for x86, but I think it was never widely
used in production settings. My main goal is to have binaries for Sage
on Solaris installs so that we cover the widest possible number of
installs while minimizing the pain of porting and that means Sparc
Solaris 9 and later and x86[-64] Solaris 10 and later.
> > Hehe, old hardware is fun, but I do not do any work on them.
>
> I've not a GPIB board (for controlling test equipment) which is on
> sbus. I should hang on to an old SPARC for that, as they make cheap
> and small instrument controllers. But realistically, they are not much
> use for much else now.
>
> > Yes, that is true. Some little birdy told me a while back that a large
> > university in Canada is still running their Sparc boxen with Solaris 8
>
> I was going to say universities might suffer this problem. Where I
> worked at a uni we seem to have some really old stuff around. The
> system admin seemed to be stuck in the dark ages.
Yeah, but if it ain't broken don't fix it :)
> > Ok, so there is no annoying IMHO Debian policy like thing for
> > Sunfreeware it seems which will make a monolithic tarball much easier.
>
> I don't think Steve at Sunfreeware would try to break it up. I think
> he would just put it up as a large package. But I've not tried asking
> him.
Ok.
> > > Ultimately, it would be nice to get Sun to put it on the Solaris
> > > Express DVD, but I image that would not be quite so easy to do.
>
> > Yes, one would imagine competition here is rather fierce.
>
> Especially since Sage is so large. I imagine its easier to get a 10 kb
> utility added than 100's of MB. But Sun must be aware there is a
> market for this sort of sortware on Solaris - they have worked quite
> closly with Wolfram Reseach.
>
> Of course, there is nothing to stop you creating your own OpenSolaris
> live DVD and distributing that. Or asking any of the groups that do
> produce one to add Sage.
Yes, adding Sage to more repos/listing has been something that Harald
has already mentioned in this thread.
> > Sure, but conflict of interest is one thing, acting on it is another.
>
> I've got nothing to suggest he will.
>
> I may be wrong, but I get the feeling Sunfreeware is not updated as
> often as it used to be. Perhaps Steve has other more pressing
> commitments.
Is he the only one who can update? Since we do a binary on average
every two weeks having short turn around times would be a good thing.
If we released once a year this would obviously much less of an issue.
> > Do you mean addons specifically for Solaris or for MMA in general?
>
> Mathematica in general. I'm not aware of any Solaris-specific
> Mathematica add-ons.
>
> But there have been a few discussions on comp.soft-
> sys.math.mathematica about marketing of add-ons. I've also had private
> emails from a couple of people that do sell them. I got the feeling
> that it was hardly worth their while.
Interesting. It seems that MATLAB with its toolboxen is a much more
interesting market to be in.
> > Sure, installing Sage was always meant to be easy and since there is
> > only one true Solaris with a rather stable ABI I am confident that
> > binaries will work on average much better than on some random Linux
> > distribution. But I guess time will tell.
>
> Yes, I would expect them too to. There should not be all this "you
> need to use kernel x.y on distribution z" stuff you get on Linux.
It is mostly about the glibc shipped and to a lesser extend to all the
various compiler run times floating around, the kernel in our case has
very little impact.
> Dave
Cheers,
Michael
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