On Jul 19, 10:56 am, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What kind of link from Warwick University did you have in mind?
On checking, I don't see a 'links' page at Warwick. But many
university departments have a page which has links to sites that might
interest their visitors.
For example, Oxford uni maths department has such a page.
http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/links
UCL maths, stats department
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/Stats/department/links.html (which includes list
of software)
Princeton maths department has this:
http://www.math.princeton.edu/quicklinks/
(which has a section 'Commercial Software and other links', which
lists Mathematica, Maple etc.)
Generally speaking, links from sites like .edu, and .ac.uk are more
useful that www.$some_hobbiest.org. So I feel if one could get links
from the universities, it would be worth doing. It looks like Warwick
does not, but plenty of other unis do.
Dave
>
> I can imagine being able to get a link from departmental pages but not
> from university pages. But also, the department has very
> long-standing and valuable links with the Magma group and John Cannon
> in particular (he visits there for a few months every year), so any
> mention of Sage there would be accompanied by links to -- at least --
> Magma
>
> John Cremona
> (Mathematics Professor at U of Warwick, for those who don't know me)
>
> 2008/7/19 Dr. David Kirkby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> > On 18 Jul, 20:33, "Harald Schilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hello Sage folks, as promised in my last website posting [1], here a
> >> bit more how things evolved.
>
> > I think the homepage could be more search engine friendly, which
> > should help the rank on google. There are a lot of keywords, but I'm
> > not convinced they are in the right order:
>
> > This is what the keywords currently are:
>
> > sage, sagemath, sage math, open source, floss, free, software,
> > software package, mathematic, mathematics, math, maths, cas, computer
> > algebra system, python, cryptography, numerical computation, algebra,
> > group theory, combinatorics, graph theory, calculus, symbolics, number
> > theory, mathematical programming, scientific computing, mathematical
> > education, free software, interactive maths, alternative, groups,
> > finite field, linear algebra over finite fields, free advanced algebra
> > program, advanced mathematical software, gf(2), opensource math,
> > mathematics software free, math notebook, free math software, William
> > Stein
>
> > 1) Now I think there are too many there, which probably does not help
> > the page rank. I'm not an expert on this, but I think that an
> > excessive number does more harm than good.
> > 2) I believe the order affects the rank too. I find it hard to believe
> > that they are optimal.
> > 3) One of them is "mathematic". Is that supposed to be Mathematica?
>
> > Here are a few suggestions.
>
> > free mathematica, free maple, free mathematics software, download
> > mathematics, sage, open source mathematics, free computer algebra
> > system, mathematics software, mathematical software, symbolic
> > computation, mathematica clone, maple clone, arbitrary precision
> > arithmetic, plot graph,
>
> > 4) If I type 'free mathematica' into google, the number one hit is
> > this question on a forum:
>
> >http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189
>
> > Sage is not even mentioned as one of the free versions - all the
> > others I can think of are. It would be worth someone registering and
> > saying a bit about sage. Google seems far the most popular engine, so
> > I would worry about that more than any of the others.
>
> > 5) Typing 'free maths software' brings
> > uphttp://www.dmoz.org/Science/Math/Software/
> > as #4. (dmoz is a list of open source software). I've been told before
> > that it is quite important to get in the dmoz directory, but I don't
> > see Sage listed there.
>
> > 6) I believe links to sites from sourceforge are quite helpful. It
> > might be worth finding some relevant software on there, and asking if
> > they will link to sage. I'll stick a link fromhttp://witm.sourceforge.net/
> > for you.
>
> > 7) You could try asking on one of the web developer sites for
> > suggestions how to improve ranking. uk.net.web.authoring is a
> > newsgroup, which has a slight uk bias, but 95% of the questions on
> > there are just as applicable to any other country. I've found them
> > pretty helpful in the past for suggestions how to improve a site.
>
> > 8) Typing 'mathematics university' into google I get 95 million hits.
> > Google insists on sending me to google.co.uk, so I get mainly uk
> > universites. The top ones are Warwick, Oxford, Cambridge, Bristol,
> > University College London. I would bet all of them have "links" pages.
> > Why not ask them to link to sage?
>
> > 9) Since Microsoft Research are funding sage, how about trying to get
> > Sage listed on the M$ web site? I don't even see it mentioned on the
> > page dealing with US university research. I would suspect if Google
> > finds microsoft linking to a site, it would push it up the page rank a
> > lot.
>
> > 10) Ask regular users of Sage to link to the site.
>
> > 11) I think the plan should be to get well respected sites - major
> > universities, Microsoft (as much as I hate to say it),
>
> > 12) Once a Solaris port is done, try to get Blastwave and Sunfreeware
> > to keep packages. I'm not sure if Blastware will, as I think they want
> > Solaris 8 packages. But I guess if it does not run on Solaris 8, they
> > might accept it. You might get some problems getting Sunfreewave to
> > have a package, as the owner of that site (Steve Christensen) works
> > for Wolfram Research, produces his own Mathematica addon and moderates
> > comp.soft-sys.math.mathematica. I suspect, given he does not allow
> > other software to be discussed on comp.soft-sys.math.mathematica, he
> > might be reluctant to produce a package for Sage. But you can only
> > ask.
>
> > Sticking 'solaris software' into google I findwww.sunfrerware.comis
> > the top hit - more thanwww.sun.com!! At number 4 is
> >http://www.solaris4you.dk/sunsolaris.htmlwhich is a list of free
> > solaris software.
>
> > Anyway, perhaps there are some ideas for ways to improve the number of
> > visitors to the site.
>
> > Dave
>
>
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