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Hi Michael,

mabshoff wrote:
| For 32 bits we are fixing the Cygwin issues and one goal for Dev1
| [starting in a little less than two weeks] is to get that port up and
| working again. MinGW's support for Python is allegedly problematic, at
| least during the 2.4 release of python. I have not tried Python
| 2.5+MinGW.  Right now Windows Python 2.5 is build per default with
| MSVC 2005 in 32 as well as 64 bit mode. It works perfect with Cygwin
| in 32 bit mode, but there are some problems related to DLL address
| space which are solvable. Python 2.6 as well as 3.0 will switch to
| MSVC 2008 as default compiler.
|
| For 64 bit Windows the compilers by Microsoft [C/C++] and Intel
| [Fortran] are the only technical viable option today. On the 64 bit
| MinGW front things are changing, but I don't expect that compiler to
| work well this year and we want to be done with the port this year,
| hopefully by the fall. Once MinGW catches up we are more than happy to
| support that compiler assuming we don't run into any showstoppers that
| we cannot fix.
|
| For the Intel compilers: I am planning to add support for at least
| Linux/Itanium, so the Intel compiler on Linux ought to work at some
| point. The Intel compiler on Windows behaves differently than the
| Linux version since the Linux version is supposed to be gcc compatible
| while the Windows version is supposed to be a drop in replacement for
| MSVC.  So once we have MSVC working I will surely see how far I get
| with the Intel compiler on Windows, too.
|
| In the we are willing to support any reasonable compiler, i.e. I am
| adding Sun Forte support on Solaris at the moment, and obviously
| welcome fixes from other platforms assuming they don't break the
| other  builds.

Thanks for the info. I had no idea about the status of 64-bit MinGW, so
I understand better your desire to support MSVC.

A couple of technical questions:

1) how do you cope with mixed C/C++ - Fortran builds under Windows,
given that, AFAIK, it is generally not possible to mix these languages
using different compilers (and that Microsoft does not provide a Fortran
compiler)?

2) more generally, I think that such an effort must undergo tight
coordination with upstream. Given that AFAICT most open-source
mathematical software is developed on the GCC toolchain, how do you cope
with upstream projects using compiler/standard library features present
only in GCC? I'm thinking mainly about stuff like assembly support, but
also modern C++ standard library features. What do you do if, let's say,
Singular starts using TR1's features implemented in GCC but not in MSVC?
(in such case the solution could be using Boost's TR1 wrapper, but this
requires notable interaction and coordination with the Singular devs)

Thanks and best regards,

~  Francesco.
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