Note that I also have nothing with sage_setup, and the scripts are in the
Sage's venv.
You do have sage_setup, and your files are not in a Sage venv.

Seeing the output of ./config.status --config, and the contents of
config.log, might help to understand more.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2026 at 3:22 PM Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my case these are the only packages installed by Sage, the rest come
> from the "system", via
>
> ./configure --enable-system-site-packages
>
> Why is there a red line below, is it a hanging link?
>
>
>
> On March 1, 2026 12:50:24 PM CST, Marc Culler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I see:
>>
>> find . -name spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/comm/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pytest/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/distlib/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/ipykernel/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/filelock/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pybind11/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pathspec/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pure_eval/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/tornado/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pyproject_api/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/requests/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/gmpy2/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pyparsing/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/conway_polynomials/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pytz/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/virtualenv/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/primecountpy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/tzdata/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/wheel/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/asttokens/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/networkx/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/meson/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/ipywidgets/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pytz_deprecation_shim/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pexpect/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/memory_allocator/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pyproject_hooks/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pygments/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_htmlhelp/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sage_setup/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/exceptiongroup/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/py/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cython/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/entrypoints/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/flit_core/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/parso/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/debugpy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cachetools/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/tox/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinx_inline_tabs/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/contourpy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/hatch_vcs/spkg-requirements.txt
>>
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sage_numerical_backends_coin/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sortedcontainers/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pytest_xdist/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/alabaster/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/roman_numerals/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pip/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/gast/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/decorator/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/python_build/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cffi/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cycler/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/idna/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/beautifulsoup4/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/markupsafe/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cvxopt/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pythran/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/attrs/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/jinja2/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/chardet/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pycparser/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cypari/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/trove_classifiers/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/snowballstemmer/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/imagesize/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/jedi/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/iniconfig/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pynormaliz/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pyzmq/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/docutils/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pycosat/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/furo/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/numpy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pyproject_metadata/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/packaging/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinx_copybutton/spkg-requirements.txt
>> *./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagelib/spkg-requirements.txt*
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/charset_normalizer/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/editables/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pkgconfig/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_jsmath/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_qthelp/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/colorama/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/setuptools/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/dateutil/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/lrcalc_python/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cppy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/fpylll/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/urllib3/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/prompt_toolkit/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/kiwisolver/spkg-requirements.txt
>>
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_websupport/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/meson_python/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/beniget/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/mpmath/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sage_docbuild/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/setuptools_scm/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/fonttools/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinx/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/six/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/platformdirs/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/gnumake_tokenpool/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/calver/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/stack_data/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/appdirs/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyterlab_widgets/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/wcwidth/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/hypothesis/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/widgetsnbextension/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/matplotlib/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagetex/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/cysignals/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pyrsistent/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/matplotlib_inline/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/scipy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/soupsieve/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/traitlets/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/tzlocal/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pillow/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pplpy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sympy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_devhelp/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pluggy/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_applehelp/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/babel/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/nest_asyncio/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/ply/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyter_core/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/execnet/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/ptyprocess/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pysingular/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pytest_mock/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/certifi/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/psutil/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/executing/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/pickleshare/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinx_basic_ng/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/zipp/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/ipython_genutils/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/hatchling/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/hatch_readme/spkg-requirements.txt
>>
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sphinxcontrib_serializinghtml/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyter_client/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/p_group_cohomology/spkg-requirements.txt
>> ./local/var/lib/sage/scripts/ipython/spkg-requirements.txt
>>
>> On Sunday, March 1, 2026 at 12:00:05 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Besides, sagelib doesn't have spkg-requirements.txt, nor it has
>>> any sage/scripts/sagelib/
>>> You're doing something non-standard, and without full details it's hard
>>> to say anything meaningful.
>>> sagelib is a not like the rest of the packages, anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my SAGEROOT I see
>>>
>>>  $ find . -name spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyter_events/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/gnumake_tokenpool/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/tzdata/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/nbconvert/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/overrides/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyterlab_mathjax2/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/types_python_dateutil/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyter_server/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/pickleshare/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/mpmath/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyter_sphinx/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagetex/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyterlab_server/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyter_lsp/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/notebook_shim/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/pytz_deprecation_shim/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/jupyterlab/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/ipympl/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/notebook/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> ./local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagenb_export/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2026 at 11:25 AM Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2026 at 11:19 AM Marc Culler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is really only one file reported as
>>>>> missing:: sage/local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagelib/spkg-requirements.txt.
>>>>> The other one is the directory containing that file.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did run ./bootstrap, of course.  And it created the directory and
>>>>> the file.  Moreover, both the directory and the file still exist and are
>>>>> both readable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does /var/tmp/sage-10.9/local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagelib exist?
>>>> (but you see "Directory
>>>> /var/tmp/sage-10.9/local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagelib not found" ?)
>>>>
>>>> /var/tmp doesn't sound like something our build system uses normally.
>>>> IMHO all happens in SAGEROOT/build/sage-distro/
>>>>
>>>> Dima
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But if I verify that they exist, and then run make doc-html, it
>>>>> reports them both as missing.  There is something wrong with the test.  I
>>>>> wish I knew where the test was.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 28, 2026 at 2:21:55 PM UTC-6 [email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> some of these are generated by ./bootstrap
>>>>>> You need to run it either directly, or via make (the latter might be
>>>>>> flaky)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On February 28, 2026 1:08:10 PM CST, Marc Culler <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just tried make doc-html.  I get:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [sagelib-10.9.beta7] Warning: File
>>>>>>> /var/tmp/sage-10.9/local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagelib/spkg-requirements.txt
>>>>>>> not found
>>>>>>> [sagelib-10.9.beta7] Warning: Directory
>>>>>>> /var/tmp/sage-10.9/local/var/lib/sage/scripts/sagelib not found
>>>>>>> [sagelib-10.9.beta7] Removing stamp file
>>>>>>> /var/tmp/sage-10.9/local/var/lib/sage/installed/sagelib-10.9.beta7
>>>>>>> [sagelib-10.9.beta7] [spkg-install] Installing sagelib-10.9.beta7
>>>>>>> [sagelib-10.9.beta7] [spkg-install] * Building wheel...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are the missing files in sage/scripts treated as missing
>>>>>>> dependencies?  Why would they be missing?  I did not delete them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Marc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2026 at 1:03 PM Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For me,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     make doc-html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> does the right thing, building html docs, without extra work
>>>>>>>> (after  `make` is done).
>>>>>>>> If one needs the docs, it makes sense to run
>>>>>>>> the above straight away, it's a bit quicker, as it avoids extra
>>>>>>>> regeneration of docs ninja targets by meson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dima
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On February 28, 2026 11:13:44 AM CST, Marc Culler <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I build sage with make the last step is to build sagelib.  If
>>>>>>>>> I then run
>>>>>>>>>   make sagemath_doc_html
>>>>>>>>> it rebuilds the sagelib that it just finished building before
>>>>>>>>> starting to build the documentation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Marc
>>>>>>>>>
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