By the way, we might want to modify sage.parallel.ncpus.ncpus for Python 
3.13 to use process_cpu_count 
<https://docs.python.org/3/library/os.html#os.process_cpu_count> instead of 
cpu_count, since as of Python 3.13, this is what Python's multiprocessing 
package does. 

On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 6:46:59 AM UTC-7 dim...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just bumped it in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/39680
> Please review.
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 8:30 PM John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think the problem is Sphinx: my guess is that when the Sphinx version 
> got bumped in https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/39577, 
> sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp also needed a bump. If I look at the Sphinx build 
> log, I see:
> >
> > spkg-pipinst] ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the 
> requirement sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp>=2.0.6 (from sphinx) (from versions: 
> 2.0.5)
> > [spkg-pipinst] ERROR: No matching distribution found for 
> sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp>=2.0.6
> >
> > I also see this:
> > [spkg-pipinst] Warning: The installation needed to use "--no-deps 
> --ignore-installed --ignore-requires-python" to succeed. This means that a 
> dependencies file in build/pkgs/ needs to be updated. Please report this to 
> sage-...@googlegroups.com, including the build log of this package.
> >
> > I don't know why the build was considered successful after this, but 
> apparently it was. Anyway, consider this as having been reported.
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote:
> >>
> >> I see this too (I'm using OS X, don't know the situation for other 
> platforms). I think the problem is somehow with Python3. If I modify the 
> src/bin/sage-env script (which is where SAGE_NUM_THREADS gets read and 
> perhaps modified) to directly run the script sage-num-threads.py, I get an 
> error, and that error means that sage-env uses the default value of "1" for 
> SAGE_NUM_THREADS.
> >>
> >> I applied this change:
> >>
> >> diff --git a/src/bin/sage-env b/src/bin/sage-env
> >> index 5a53ab1d2c..3000b4d983 100644
> >> --- a/src/bin/sage-env
> >> +++ b/src/bin/sage-env
> >> @@ -580,6 +580,9 @@ case "$SAGE_NUM_THREADS,$SAGE_NUM_THREADS_PARALLEL" 
> in
> >> # First, figure out the right values for SAGE_NUM_THREADS (default
> >> # number of threads) and SAGE_NUM_THREADS_PARALLEL (default number of
> >> # threads when parallel execution is asked explicitly).
> >> +
> >> + sage-num-threads.py
> >> +
> >> sage_num_threads_array=$(sage-num-threads.py 2>/dev/null || echo 1 2 1)
> >> sage_num_threads_array="${sage_num_threads_array% *}" # strip third item
> >> SAGE_NUM_THREADS="${sage_num_threads_array% *}" # keep first item
> >>
> >> If I run "sage" or "sage -sh", I see
> >>
> >> 
> /Users/palmieri/Sage/git/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/bin/sage-num-threads.py:4:
>  
> DeprecationWarning: pkg_resources is deprecated as an API. See 
> https://setuptools.pypa.io/en/latest/pkg_resources.html
> >> __import__('pkg_resources').require('sagemath-standard==10.6b8')
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >> File 
> "/Users/palmieri/Sage/git/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py",
>  
> line 656, in _build_master
> >> ws.require(__requires__)
> >> File 
> "/Users/palmieri/Sage/git/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py",
>  
> line 1063, in require
> >> needed = self.resolve(parse_requirements(requirements))
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> File 
> "/Users/palmieri/Sage/git/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py",
>  
> line 890, in resolve
> >> dist = self._resolve_dist(
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> File 
> "/Users/palmieri/Sage/git/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py",
>  
> line 936, in _resolve_dist
> >> raise VersionConflict(dist, req).with_context(dependent_req)
> >> pkg_resources.ContextualVersionConflict: (sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp 2.0.5 
> (/Users/palmieri/Sage/git/sage/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.12/lib/python3.12/site-packages),
>  
> Requirement.parse('sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp>=2.0.6'), {'sphinx'})
> >>
> >> Sage provides sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp 2.0.5. I don't know what's looking 
> for 2.0.6; I got no hits when I ran 'git grep "2[.]0[.]6" '.
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, March 11, 2025 at 4:13:41 PM UTC-7 enriqu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For 10.5 with python 3.12.5, sage.parallel.ncpus.ncpus() is 1 without 
> giving a value to SAGE_NUM_THREADS and 16 if sage is opened as 
> "SAGE_NUM_THREADS=16 sage". For 10.6.beta9 (python 3.13.2), the value is 
> always one; in another computer 10.6.beta9 is using python 3.12.5 and the 
> value is always one.
> >>> El miércoles, 12 de marzo de 2025 a las 6:15:27 UTC+9, 
> dim...@gmail.com escribió:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 4:28 AM enriqu...@gmail.com
> >>>> <enriqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If I set the variable SAGE_NUM_THREADS to a number of cores before 
> opening a sage session (command line or jupyterlab) there is a different 
> behaviour in 10.5 and in 10.6beta;
> >>>> > parallel computation can be done in 10.5, there is no effect in the 
> beta version (I do not know when it started to fail). In the beta version 
> parallel computation is possible declaring the number of cores using the 
> following hack (suggested to me at some point by Miguel Marco)
> >>>> > def miscpus():
> >>>> > return "put here the number of cores"
> >>>> > sage.parallel.ncpus.ncpus=miscpus
> >>>> > Is it possible to know when SAGE_NUM_THREADS lost its effects?
> >>>>
> >>>> what is the output of sage.parallel.ncpus.ncpus() in 10.5 and in
> >>>> 10.6.beta* for you?
> >>>> (without using the hack above). Are they using the same Python 
> version?
> >>>>
> >>>> The code for sage.parallel.ncpus.ncpus didn't change for a year, 
> since 10.3.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dima
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > Thanks, Enrique.
> >>>> >
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