On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 7:11 AM 'Doris Behrendt' via sage-devel <
sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> boaaahhh come on guys! I again could't read all the past mails and cannot
> comment objectively, but subjectively this feels like Kindergarten. Perhaps
> Dima and Matthias (and the CoC group as well) should read >>Asterix and the
> big fight<<?
>
> scnr
>
> ... some months ago I suggested the >>key players<< meeting in person and
> a professional mediation, but the CoC did not plan anything in that
> direction, right?
>

The CoC has met on Zoom (in person is harder) with many community members
in an effort to resolve this.


> SageMath is much too important to have quarrels like those destroy the
> project ... so CoC please do some real management. Writing proposals and
> E-Mails will not solve the problem, I believe.
>

If you have suggestions, I encourage you to reach out to us on
sage-cond...@googlegroups.com.
David


> Doris
>
> > On 7. Sep 2024, at 09:36, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 September 2024 22:29:35 BST, Matthias Koeppe <
> matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 6, 2024 at 1:23:21 PM UTC-7 jplab wrote:
> >>
> >> We would like to solicit suggestions from the community for a new
> section
> >> of the Sage Code of Conduct
> >> <https://github.com/sagemath/sage/blob/develop/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md>
> >> addressing blocking.  The following is a draft:
> >>
> >> Blocking another SageMath developer on GitHub can be a valid response
> to
> >> extreme misconduct, aimed at reducing interactions. However, unless the
> >> misconduct results in the blocked person being excluded from the
> SageMath
> >> project, such blocks should be temporary and last only until the
> conflict
> >> is resolved. The SageMath Code of Conduct Committee should work with
> both
> >> parties to lift the block. If the blocked person does not cooperate,
> the
> >> committee may sanction them. If the blocker does not cooperate, the
> >> committee may decide that proper discussion on their Pull Requests and
> >> Issues is not feasible, and request that the release manager not merge
> any
> >> of their Pull Requests until the block is lifted.
> >>
> >> We know that this issue is sensitive for several Sage developers [...]
> >>
> >>
> >> A public discussion of this is meaningless as long as the public is
> unaware
> >> of the extent of dysfunction of the CoCC, which refuses to take the
> >> necessary steps even in the face of persistent abuse.
> >>
> >
> > We have a proposal to discuss. Functioning of a committee is a rather
> different topic.
> >
> > As a target of blocking on GitHub, which I think is aimed at pushing me
> out of the project,
> > I very much welcome any way out of this limbo - even if it means that
> the blocker is prevented from contributing to the project as long as the
> block is at place.
> >
> > Dima
> >
> >
> >
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