Hi William, Let me know if you have any questions regarding conda installation of sage. It'd be great to have more visibility towards conda installation to attract more users and developers in particular who can help out.
Thanks, Isuru On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:37 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Minor correction -- they say "Given its wide usage, there are no plans to > deprecate Mambaforge." So Mambaforge isn't deprecated as I incorrectly > wrote. It's just "discouraged". > > I'm sorry for the noise, but the *conda* packaging ecosystem makes me > dizzy... > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:31 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I was just carefully reading the page about Mambaforge linked to from >> Sage, i.e., this page >> >> https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge >> >> and it says that Mambaforge is deprecated and no longer recommended, and >> instead people should install Miniforge, i.e., "(Discouraged as of >> September 2023)". We should update the instructions at >> >> >> https://deploy-livedoc--sagemath.netlify.app/html/en/installation/conda#install-from-conda-forge >> >> since they recommend the now discouraged Mambaforge. >> >> The page https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge suggests that >> Mambaforge is somehow "just as good", but when I tried doing clean >> installs, then installing Sage, I had the best experience (i.e., completely >> perfect!) with Miniforge, which is what they recommend. Basically, we >> should instead recommend: >> >> curl -L -O >> https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname >> -m).sh >> >> sh Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh -b -u -p /conda >> >> -- William >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:05 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> So I was using MicroMamba, whereas that page says Sage only >>> supports Mambaforge, Miniforge, Miniconda or Anaconda. I tried with >>> Mambaforge (as recommended there) and everything works perfectly, with >>> sage-10.2 being available, and nicely integrated with the conda ecosystem, >>> and also it's easy to switch Python versions. So I'll switch from using >>> MicroMamba to Mambaforge. Problem solved. >>> >>> William >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:47 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:39 PM Matthias Koeppe < >>>> matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> William, do the instructions in our Installation Guide work for you? >>>>> >>>>> https://deploy-livedoc--sagemath.netlify.app/html/en/installation/conda#install-from-conda-forge >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> Note in particular this step: "Change channel priority to strict: >>>>> conda config --set channel_priority strict" >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm using micromamba, which is supposed to be a drop in replacement for >>>> conda, but it just gives an error for the above, so maybe it is missing >>>> critical features needed to install sage: >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> (compute-server-1540) ~/anaconda$ micromamba config --set >>>> channel_priority strict >>>> The following arguments were not expected: strict channel_priority --set >>>> Run with --help for more information. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> I'll revisit whether I need to switch to another conda... >>>> >>>> That said micromamba has strict by default: >>>> https://github.com/mamba-org/provision-with-micromamba/issues/33 >>>> >>>> (compute-server-1540) ~/anaconda$ micromamba config --set >>>> channel_priority strict --help >>>> Configuration of micromamba >>>> Usage: /usr/local/bin/micromamba config [OPTIONS] [SUBCOMMAND] >>>> >>>> Options: >>>> -h,--help Print this help message and exit >>>> >>>> >>>> Configuration options: >>>> --rc-file TEXT ... Paths to the configuration files to use >>>> --no-rc Disable the use of configuration files >>>> --no-env Disable the use of environment variables >>>> >>>> >>>> Global options: >>>> -v,--verbose Set verbosity (higher verbosity with >>>> multiple -v, e.g. -vvv) >>>> --log-level ENUM:value in >>>> {critical->5,debug->1,error->4,info->2,off->6,trace->0,warning->3} OR >>>> {5,1,4,2,6,0,3} >>>> Set the log level >>>> -q,--quiet Set quiet mode (print less output) >>>> -y,--yes Automatically answer yes on prompted >>>> questions >>>> --json Report all output as json >>>> --offline Force use cached repodata >>>> --dry-run Only display what would have been done >>>> --download-only Only download and extract packages, do >>>> not link them into environment. >>>> --experimental Enable experimental features >>>> >>>> >>>> Prefix options: >>>> -r,--root-prefix TEXT Path to the root prefix >>>> -p,--prefix TEXT Path to the target prefix >>>> --relocate-prefix TEXT Path to the relocation prefix >>>> -n,--name TEXT Name of the target prefix >>>> >>>> Subcommands: >>>> list List configuration values >>>> sources Show configuration sources >>>> describe Describe given configuration parameters >>>> prepend Add one configuration value to the >>>> beginning of a list key >>>> append Add one configuration value to the end of >>>> a list key >>>> remove-key Remove a configuration key and its values >>>> remove Remove a configuration value from a list >>>> key. This removes all instances of the value. >>>> set Set a configuration value >>>> get Get a configuration value >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 12:36:47 PM UTC-7 William Stein wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just tried installing sage via conda and it's broken. Am I doing >>>>>> something wrong, or is there any automated testing of sage in conda >>>>>> (which >>>>>> might be a good thing to have)? I was going to publicize sage+conda in a >>>>>> post I was about to make, but won't... >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Install mambaforge into Ubuntu >>>>>> 2. Add conda-forge channel >>>>>> 3. Install the "sage" package. >>>>>> 4. It appears to install but is broken, evidently maybe due to a >>>>>> libgsl dependency (not sure): >>>>>> >>>>>> user@compute-server-1540:anaconda$ sage -sh >>>>>> ... >>>>>> (sage-sh) user@compute-server-1540:anaconda$ python >>>>>> Python 3.11.6 | packaged by conda-forge | (main, Oct 3 2023, >>>>>> 10:40:35) [GCC 12.3.0] on linux >>>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>>>> >>> import sage.all >>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>>> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> >>>>>> File >>>>>> "/conda/envs/default/lib/python3.11/site-packages/sage/all.py", line 75, >>>>>> in >>>>>> <module> >>>>>> from sage.misc.all import * # takes a while >>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>> File >>>>>> "/conda/envs/default/lib/python3.11/site-packages/sage/misc/all.py", line >>>>>> 62, in <module> >>>>>> from .functional import (additive_order, >>>>>> File >>>>>> "/conda/envs/default/lib/python3.11/site-packages/sage/misc/functional.py", >>>>>> line 26, in <module> >>>>>> from sage.rings.complex_double import CDF >>>>>> ImportError: libgsl.so.25: cannot open shared object file: No such >>>>>> file or directory >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> sage: >>>>>> >>>>>> (compute-server-1540) ~/anaconda$ sage >>>>>> ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ >>>>>> │ SageMath version 10.1, Release Date: 2023-08-20 │ >>>>>> │ Using Python 3.11.6. Type "help()" for help. │ >>>>>> └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ >>>>>> ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓ >>>>>> ┃ Warning: sage.all is not available; this is a limited REPL. ┃ >>>>>> ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛ >>>>>> sage: factor(2024) >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> NameError Traceback (most recent call >>>>>> last) >>>>>> Cell In[1], line 1 >>>>>> ----> 1 factor(Integer(2024)) >>>>>> >>>>>> NameError: name 'factor' is not defined >>>>>> sage: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> William >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> William (http://wstein.org) >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/2fa5b435-2aa8-4303-8c13-048660e19380n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/2fa5b435-2aa8-4303-8c13-048660e19380n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> William (http://wstein.org) >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> William (http://wstein.org) >>> >> >> >> -- >> William (http://wstein.org) >> > > > -- > William (http://wstein.org) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CACLE5GAOA2G_0OTFe1Vm%3DJZc_qx8vsKk1PAk4j3psUdvA-riZg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CACLE5GAOA2G_0OTFe1Vm%3DJZc_qx8vsKk1PAk4j3psUdvA-riZg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. 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