Minor correction -- they say "Given its wide usage, there are no plans to deprecate Mambaforge." So Mambaforge isn't deprecated as I incorrectly wrote. It's just "discouraged".
I'm sorry for the noise, but the *conda* packaging ecosystem makes me dizzy... On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:31 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was just carefully reading the page about Mambaforge linked to from > Sage, i.e., this page > > https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge > > and it says that Mambaforge is deprecated and no longer recommended, and > instead people should install Miniforge, i.e., "(Discouraged as of > September 2023)". We should update the instructions at > > > https://deploy-livedoc--sagemath.netlify.app/html/en/installation/conda#install-from-conda-forge > > since they recommend the now discouraged Mambaforge. > > The page https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge suggests that > Mambaforge is somehow "just as good", but when I tried doing clean > installs, then installing Sage, I had the best experience (i.e., completely > perfect!) with Miniforge, which is what they recommend. Basically, we > should instead recommend: > > curl -L -O > https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/latest/download/Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname > -m).sh > > sh Miniforge3-$(uname)-$(uname -m).sh -b -u -p /conda > > -- William > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:05 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> So I was using MicroMamba, whereas that page says Sage only >> supports Mambaforge, Miniforge, Miniconda or Anaconda. I tried with >> Mambaforge (as recommended there) and everything works perfectly, with >> sage-10.2 being available, and nicely integrated with the conda ecosystem, >> and also it's easy to switch Python versions. So I'll switch from using >> MicroMamba to Mambaforge. Problem solved. >> >> William >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:47 PM William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:39 PM Matthias Koeppe < >>> matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> William, do the instructions in our Installation Guide work for you? >>>> >>>> https://deploy-livedoc--sagemath.netlify.app/html/en/installation/conda#install-from-conda-forge >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> Note in particular this step: "Change channel priority to strict: conda >>>> config --set channel_priority strict" >>>> >>> >>> I'm using micromamba, which is supposed to be a drop in replacement for >>> conda, but it just gives an error for the above, so maybe it is missing >>> critical features needed to install sage: >>> >>> --- >>> >>> (compute-server-1540) ~/anaconda$ micromamba config --set >>> channel_priority strict >>> The following arguments were not expected: strict channel_priority --set >>> Run with --help for more information. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> I'll revisit whether I need to switch to another conda... >>> >>> That said micromamba has strict by default: >>> https://github.com/mamba-org/provision-with-micromamba/issues/33 >>> >>> (compute-server-1540) ~/anaconda$ micromamba config --set >>> channel_priority strict --help >>> Configuration of micromamba >>> Usage: /usr/local/bin/micromamba config [OPTIONS] [SUBCOMMAND] >>> >>> Options: >>> -h,--help Print this help message and exit >>> >>> >>> Configuration options: >>> --rc-file TEXT ... Paths to the configuration files to use >>> --no-rc Disable the use of configuration files >>> --no-env Disable the use of environment variables >>> >>> >>> Global options: >>> -v,--verbose Set verbosity (higher verbosity with >>> multiple -v, e.g. -vvv) >>> --log-level ENUM:value in >>> {critical->5,debug->1,error->4,info->2,off->6,trace->0,warning->3} OR >>> {5,1,4,2,6,0,3} >>> Set the log level >>> -q,--quiet Set quiet mode (print less output) >>> -y,--yes Automatically answer yes on prompted >>> questions >>> --json Report all output as json >>> --offline Force use cached repodata >>> --dry-run Only display what would have been done >>> --download-only Only download and extract packages, do not >>> link them into environment. >>> --experimental Enable experimental features >>> >>> >>> Prefix options: >>> -r,--root-prefix TEXT Path to the root prefix >>> -p,--prefix TEXT Path to the target prefix >>> --relocate-prefix TEXT Path to the relocation prefix >>> -n,--name TEXT Name of the target prefix >>> >>> Subcommands: >>> list List configuration values >>> sources Show configuration sources >>> describe Describe given configuration parameters >>> prepend Add one configuration value to the >>> beginning of a list key >>> append Add one configuration value to the end of >>> a list key >>> remove-key Remove a configuration key and its values >>> remove Remove a configuration value from a list >>> key. This removes all instances of the value. >>> set Set a configuration value >>> get Get a configuration value >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 12:36:47 PM UTC-7 William Stein wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I just tried installing sage via conda and it's broken. Am I doing >>>>> something wrong, or is there any automated testing of sage in conda (which >>>>> might be a good thing to have)? I was going to publicize sage+conda in a >>>>> post I was about to make, but won't... >>>>> >>>>> 1. Install mambaforge into Ubuntu >>>>> 2. Add conda-forge channel >>>>> 3. Install the "sage" package. >>>>> 4. It appears to install but is broken, evidently maybe due to a >>>>> libgsl dependency (not sure): >>>>> >>>>> user@compute-server-1540:anaconda$ sage -sh >>>>> ... >>>>> (sage-sh) user@compute-server-1540:anaconda$ python >>>>> Python 3.11.6 | packaged by conda-forge | (main, Oct 3 2023, >>>>> 10:40:35) [GCC 12.3.0] on linux >>>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>>> >>> import sage.all >>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>> File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> >>>>> File "/conda/envs/default/lib/python3.11/site-packages/sage/all.py", >>>>> line 75, in <module> >>>>> from sage.misc.all import * # takes a while >>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>> File >>>>> "/conda/envs/default/lib/python3.11/site-packages/sage/misc/all.py", line >>>>> 62, in <module> >>>>> from .functional import (additive_order, >>>>> File >>>>> "/conda/envs/default/lib/python3.11/site-packages/sage/misc/functional.py", >>>>> line 26, in <module> >>>>> from sage.rings.complex_double import CDF >>>>> ImportError: libgsl.so.25: cannot open shared object file: No such >>>>> file or directory >>>>> >>> >>>>> sage: >>>>> >>>>> (compute-server-1540) ~/anaconda$ sage >>>>> ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ >>>>> │ SageMath version 10.1, Release Date: 2023-08-20 │ >>>>> │ Using Python 3.11.6. Type "help()" for help. │ >>>>> └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ >>>>> ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓ >>>>> ┃ Warning: sage.all is not available; this is a limited REPL. ┃ >>>>> ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛ >>>>> sage: factor(2024) >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> NameError Traceback (most recent call >>>>> last) >>>>> Cell In[1], line 1 >>>>> ----> 1 factor(Integer(2024)) >>>>> >>>>> NameError: name 'factor' is not defined >>>>> sage: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> William >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> William (http://wstein.org) >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/2fa5b435-2aa8-4303-8c13-048660e19380n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/2fa5b435-2aa8-4303-8c13-048660e19380n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> William (http://wstein.org) >>> >> >> >> -- >> William (http://wstein.org) >> > > > -- > William (http://wstein.org) > -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. 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