On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 5:24 PM Matthias Koeppe <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 9:07:04 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > 1) you can even just get a binary wheel of pytest installed - it is very > fast, and robust. > > > Yes, that's what my PR https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37301 does. > It installs pytest as a "wheel" package. > there are wheels and wheels. Binary wheels don't need any building, Sage's wheel packages still do building from source - in case the package has C extensions, possibly cythonizing or running a similar built processs involving compilation/linking. The wheel you talk about is just another packaging of a source package, isn't it? Just the other day we saw how one can very well install pyscipopt, an (optional) Sage package, from a binary wheel, without building (cause Sage's Cython is too new for pyscipopt, one can't in present build it from source). https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/htVeuOH_3t8/m/mIjBH7aRAgAJ Doing the same with e.g. scipy will shave off quite a bit of build time (by for this scipy needs to become a pip package). > Whether you install a package from an sdist or from a wheel, you still > have the same runtime dependencies ("install-requires"). > What goes away when you use a wheel is only the build-time dependencies > ("build-system requires"). > > > 2) The major improvement is that sagelib will be easier to install into an > existing venv, and that's a wish of quite a number of users. Much more > Pythonic, too. > > > The pip-installability of sagelib has absolutely nothing to do with this > discussion. > Of course it does, a lot. As having less deps pinning will model installability and useability of sagelib in a "foreign" venv. At the moment using sagelib in a foreign venv is complicated and error-prone, and untested. And I should also say that less deps will make it easier for downstreams to package sage/sagelib. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3299fe86-fa67-4830-9f3c-1386235c37c8n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3299fe86-fa67-4830-9f3c-1386235c37c8n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq0jkCCKzxhFGFLLsZYacUPzZU%2BhvkPUroKKc2XNBHTbeg%40mail.gmail.com.
