On Tue, 19 Dec 2023, 19:44 Matthias Koeppe, <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Meanwhile various PRs that make improvements to the CI are waiting for
> review:
> - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36726
> - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36694
> - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36829
> - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36498
>
>
I see that one of those is relevant to one of my PRs as it mentions changes
in the m4 configure script.

I'm afraid that I am not competent to review these.

John



> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 7:03:01 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 19 December 2023 14:49:19 GMT, John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 14:20, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 1:54 PM John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I am finding it impossible to get simple PRs to get past the
>> automatic
>> >> testing workflow system, which are repeatedly failing for reasons
>> which
>> >> have noting to do with any code I have changed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Two current examples are
>> >> >
>> >> > - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36786 ( a simple bugfix
>> which
>> >> I submitted 3 weeks ago and which could easily have made it into the
>> last
>> >> release)
>> >> > - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36879 (an update to
>> standard
>> >> dependency package eclib, requiring no code changes at all)
>> >> >
>> >> > It used to be such a simple matter to locate a bug, fix it and get
>> the
>> >> fix merged. Now it seems almost impossible (for me at least).
>> >>
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> You have enough rights to ask people for reviews, right on the PR
>> page.
>> >> You should also put up a "needs review" tag, there, on the right side
>> >> of the page.
>> >> Without "needs review" tag chances are that noone will look at it.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I would have assumed that no-one would look at a PR whose automatic
>> tests
>> >were failing, since that *should* indicate that something is wrong with
>> the
>> >PR.
>> >
>> >My complaint is that even with a PR based on the current develop branch,
>> >tests are failing which are not caused by the PR.
>>
>> One way to fix this would be CI that only tests a relevant subset of
>> things, and it's not quite there yet.
>>
>> So one has to look at results of CI to gauge the results. One reason for
>> this is that the workflow of the release manager is not quite aligned with
>> the CI,
>> so our beta releases might well fail our CI !
>>
>>
>> >
>> >But I will certainly now ask you to review both of these!
>> >
>> >John
>> >
>> >
>> >> Dima
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > This is a huge disincentive to people who would like to contribute
>> to
>> >> Sage.
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
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