Meanwhile various PRs that make improvements to the CI are waiting for 
review:
- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36726
- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36694
- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36829
- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36498


On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 7:03:01 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote:

>
>
> On 19 December 2023 14:49:19 GMT, John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 at 14:20, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 1:54 PM John Cremona <john.c...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I am finding it impossible to get simple PRs to get past the automatic
> >> testing workflow system, which are repeatedly failing for reasons which
> >> have noting to do with any code I have changed.
> >> >
> >> > Two current examples are
> >> >
> >> > - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36786 ( a simple bugfix which
> >> I submitted 3 weeks ago and which could easily have made it into the 
> last
> >> release)
> >> > - https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36879 (an update to standard
> >> dependency package eclib, requiring no code changes at all)
> >> >
> >> > It used to be such a simple matter to locate a bug, fix it and get the
> >> fix merged. Now it seems almost impossible (for me at least).
> >>
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> You have enough rights to ask people for reviews, right on the PR page.
> >> You should also put up a "needs review" tag, there, on the right side
> >> of the page.
> >> Without "needs review" tag chances are that noone will look at it.
> >>
> >
> >I would have assumed that no-one would look at a PR whose automatic tests
> >were failing, since that *should* indicate that something is wrong with 
> the
> >PR.
> >
> >My complaint is that even with a PR based on the current develop branch,
> >tests are failing which are not caused by the PR.
>
> One way to fix this would be CI that only tests a relevant subset of 
> things, and it's not quite there yet.
>
> So one has to look at results of CI to gauge the results. One reason for 
> this is that the workflow of the release manager is not quite aligned with 
> the CI,
> so our beta releases might well fail our CI !
>
>
> >
> >But I will certainly now ask you to review both of these!
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >> Dima
> >>
> >>
> >> > This is a huge disincentive to people who would like to contribute to
> >> Sage.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
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