On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler <marc.cul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was hesitant to send that message because I didn't want to have to go 
> through this again.
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Does ./configure say why the system copy is unsuitable?
>
>
> There is no system copy.
>
>> I imagine it might be an artifact of the design of Sage on Mac app
>> Marc is releasing:
>
>
> Very likely.
>
>> vendor everything.
>
>
> Vendor is a noun, not a verb.

It's a curse, to be precise, and it slows down the project a lot.
We have to worry  about over 400 packages!!!
Bloody hell, pardon my UK French, we have more interesting problems to
work on...


>
>> Is Apple's software distribution system so dumb that this is the only way?
>
>
> If you think that Apple's requirement that apps be notarized is dumb, then I 
> encourage you to take it up with Apple.  Maybe Don Quixote will join you in 
> the effort.

Apple sucks, but still I don't see how this is relevant here.
You need to package a number of external libraries in your bundle,
why do you need them to be built all at the same swoop?
If a commercial vendor gives you a library, without full source, then
you cannot package it in your app?
Sorry, this sounds rather improbable.
Can't you base your app on a Python.org Python bundle, instead, to begin with?

>
> I am serving people who use macOS; more than 8.800 of them in the case of 
> Sage 10.1.  I am fairly confident in claiming that the vast majority of Sage 
> 10.1 users are using it on macOS from the Sage_macOS app.  Even homebrew 
> users are using that app, since it is what gets installed when you run "brew 
> install sage" , which works fine by the way.

They might well be using Conda.

And Homebrew users might very well build Sage from source, as it's
relatively quick thanks to a large
number of libraries they can use.

>
> When I started this project you were griping about how many sage-support 
> problems were related to macOS installation.  I don't think you can claim 
> that to be a problem any more.

It's still the most cursed platform we need to worry about.

>
> - Marc
>
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