Hi Matthias,

Since Fortran is pretty central to this discussion, any chance you
could give a quick overview of the extent to which Sage depends on
Fortran in 2021?
I was reading about pyodide [1] recently and they had to work very
hard to build scipy for webassembly without using Fortran.  I think
they get "far enough"
for their purposes using f2c, and by possibly disabling a handful of
modules.  I'm curious what in Sage depends on Fortran these days, and
to what
extent it depends on Fortran.

For what it is worth, I remember making the first gfortran package for
Sage long ago, and at the time any sort of Fortran support on MacOS
was a nightmare.
I imagine things might be better today, due to Flang, which seems to
be a fortran frontend (like Clang) for LLVM.  That seems likely to
work well on MacOS.

[1] https://pyodide.org/en/stable/
[2] https://releases.llvm.org/11.0.0/tools/flang/docs/index.html

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 9:45 PM Matthias Koeppe
<matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 9:41:56 PM UTC-7 jus...@mac.com wrote:
>>
>> I think my only concern with this is (g)fortran. The C/C++ compiler 
>> situation seems pretty stable, but doesn’t the fortran problem still exist? 
>> I do not use any package managers on my systems, so home-brew and the like 
>> aren’t useful to me.
>
>
> Yes, that's pretty much my point 3c.
>>
>>
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