On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 6:06 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:49 AM David Roe <roed.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > For Zulip, zulipchat.com provides free hosting for open source > projects. I'm fairly confident that we could export our history and import > it to a new organization there fairly easily, if there's a consensus to do > so. > > I don't think we even need a consensus for this. Lack of funds is a > sufficient reason to migrate. > (apart from the history, account data is important...) > > We then can point zulip.sagemath.org to the appropriate url at > zulipchat.com I've created sagemath.zulipchat.com and requested sponsorship as an open source project. I exported our current Zulip history into a tarball as a test. We probably want to wait until the current Sage Days is over to complete the migration so there's no disruption (the traffic is low enough that I'll probably pick a convenient time to deactivate it for a day, port the history over to zulipchat.com and then invite all our current users to the new organization). David > > Dima > > > > David > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:41 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> I'm resurrecting this thread, as the costs of the currect setup of trac > hosted on Google Cloud Compute are prohibitive, at the current rate we are > spending over US$4500 per year on it. > >> > >> For trac+wiki+zulip: December 2019 – December 2020 (forecasted total > cost) $4,644.67 > >> > >> These are paid by UW's hosted Sage Foundation, which is projected to > run out of money soon. > >> We've started OpenCollective and GitHub sponsoring, but the rate the > donations coming in there would only suffices for perhaps 25-30% of this > figure. > >> > >> Options: > >> > >> find money > >> find cheaper (ideally, free, based in an academic institution) provider > >> migrate to GitHub or another (semi)gratis platform, e.g. GitLab, sw.ht, > etc. > >> > >> Savings also may be made by re-hosting zulip and wiki somewhere else. > >> They should be very easy to move I suppose. > >> > >> Dima > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:20:38 PM UTC gtr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> Can you think of ways to move development step-by-step to github? > >>> > >>> What would be wrong with accepting pull requests for *some parts of > Sage, then review, followed by submission to trac by an intermediary? > >>> This would need a second repository I guess. Permissions to merge > could be given on request. > >>> > >>> Other ideas? > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/95f0cc64-3f5e-494c-83f4-7c1127ae3a36n%40googlegroups.com > . > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAChs6_%3DB6GQKi07kr%2BamOgh9xBqoowy57ZxSNF1HvwULCLvm_g%40mail.gmail.com > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq1YEG9_8cP0RjTQmDCMKnphNXL15hqXvGwmVLhkXFt7Rg%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAChs6_%3DESChjAHDtOTQTvr_SjbAiqViyTV71fGQF-rBchE9Afg%40mail.gmail.com.
