On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:49 AM David Roe <roed.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For Zulip, zulipchat.com provides free hosting for open source projects.  I'm 
> fairly confident that we could export our history and import it to a new 
> organization there fairly easily, if there's a consensus to do so.

I don't think we even need a consensus for this. Lack of funds is a
sufficient reason to migrate.
(apart from the history, account data is important...)

We then can point zulip.sagemath.org to the appropriate url at zulipchat.com

Dima


> David
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:41 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm resurrecting this thread, as the costs of the currect setup of trac 
>> hosted on Google Cloud Compute are prohibitive, at the current rate we are 
>> spending over US$4500 per year on it.
>>
>> For trac+wiki+zulip: December 2019 – December 2020 (forecasted total cost)  
>> $4,644.67
>>
>> These are paid by UW's hosted Sage Foundation, which is projected to run out 
>> of money soon.
>> We've started OpenCollective and GitHub sponsoring, but the rate the 
>> donations coming in there would only suffices for perhaps 25-30% of this 
>> figure.
>>
>> Options:
>>
>> find money
>> find cheaper (ideally, free, based in an academic institution) provider
>> migrate to GitHub or another (semi)gratis platform, e.g. GitLab, sw.ht, etc.
>>
>> Savings also may be made by re-hosting zulip and wiki somewhere else.
>> They should be very easy to move I suppose.
>>
>> Dima
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:20:38 PM UTC gtr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you think of ways to move development step-by-step to github?
>>>
>>> What would be wrong with accepting pull requests for *some parts of Sage, 
>>> then review, followed by submission to trac by an intermediary?
>>> This would need a second repository I guess. Permissions to merge could be 
>>> given on request.
>>>
>>> Other ideas?
>>
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