On Dec 23, 2007 12:05 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Dec 21, 2007 6:54 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > William wrote:
> >
> > > MISSION STATEMENT:  Provide as soon as possible a viable free
> > > open source alternative to Maple, Mathematica,  Magma, and Matlab.
> >
> > When I read this mission statement, what doesn't come to mind is
> > trying to convince people who are currently using these applications
> > to switch to SAGE.  My thought is that most users of these
> > applications are perfectly happy with them.
>
> You're right.  At the beginning of Sage I worried a lot about converting
> existing users and it is frustrating and pointless, especially given how
> many potential new users there are.   I went to several major bookstores
> during the last few days as part of my vacation and searched for any
> books that had anything to do with math software -- there was exactly
> one in all the bookstores, which was some "Absolute Beginner's
> Guide to Matlab."   I think "mathematics software" is a market that in
> some sense hasn't even begun.   I'm not talking here about the existence
> of books -- but about books one actually finds on an everyday basis in
> bookstores in America...
>
> My main goal is to at least give current users who *wish*
> they could use free open source alternatives an alternative.  3 years
> ago I really wanted an alternative to the Ma*'s, even if it is a lot
> more work to use, and there wasn't one; there wasn't anything that
> was even close.
>
> > The way I view this mission statement is the same way the Ford Model T
> > was a less expensive alternative to expensive American automobiles and
> > the way the original Volkswagen "People's car" Beetle was a less
> > expensive alternative to expensive German automobiles.  Both of these
> > automobiles were designed to allow the millions of people at that time
> > who could not afford an automobile at all to finally afford one.  The
> > Beetle still holds the record for the highest production numbers for a
> > single model, and the Model T holds second place.  With this analogy,
> > the M's will get you there in luxury but SAGE will get you there too.
> > What I like about SAGE is it has the potential to allow orders of
> > magnitude more people to get "there" than has been possible before.
>
> Yes, I agree.
>
> > Here is a pie chart I created a while ago which shows this concept 
> > graphically:
> >
> > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/misc/sage_potential_target_audience.png
> >
> > It is my opinion that most of the people in the purple part of the pie
> > chart will be notebook users.
>
> I thought that chart was crazy until a few days ago when I visited a friend
> of my wife who lives in Phoenix who teaches high school and community
> college mathematics (he is a Russian with a masters from U of A).
> The world of "math computation" for them is whatever
> a TI-83 calculator can do -- seriously.  And when we talked about
> Sage, he immediately thought of how useful it could be -- as a web service --
> in the context of the classes he teaches.

It's all about calculus. I am willing to make a bet that 90% of Sage users will
only need calculus. So it ought to work really, really well. It's
still a long way though.

Ondrej

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