> It is an argument that is *only* for research pure mathematicians. For > them it actually is _very_ important. For everybody else the whole > idea of mathematical proof is somewhat irrelevant, and that's fine > with me (I understand it -- I do both pure and applied math, and > enjoy both and see them as separate complementary pursuits).
Agree. It depends what Sage wants to be. If only for pure mathematicians (as it started imho), then it's fine. If for everyone, maybe that point could be reformulated, something like If you are a pure mathematician, you will especially enjoy that with Sage you can finally do your proofs in the computer and see inside the calculation. (you can write it better) I think the main point is, that even though your own research is mostly in pure math, that's why you need Sage primarily (am I right?), Sage is done in a way, so that other people, needing it for their stuff, completely unrelated to pure math, can just implement it and feel that Sage solves their problems (and don't care about pure math). That's what I like on opensource, that if it does 95% things for me, I can just fix those 5% (maybe the original authors are not at all interested in my 5%), but if they accept the patch, then I feel the program is "mine" (in fact it is, it's like if I wrote it all by myself and used the same licenses as Sage, except that someone else has spared me 10 years of work). I don't have this feeling with any non-free program. > calculations done by MATLAB through independent means. However, > if I had access to the source code, I might have been able to > correct the problems. As I wrote in my second email, the source code is important, but not the main point behind Sage. But open source is the main point. (even if Matlab gave you all the sources under the terms, that you can look into it, maybe you can even compile it, but if you show them to anyone else, we will put you in jail, that's not what I want) Ondrej Ondrej --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---