On May 6, 2007, at 14:35 , Timothy Clemans wrote:
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> The two column navigation table is very confusing to me.
A lot of this discussion is about aesthetics, for which there are no
easy answers when reasonable men agree to bicker :-} For me, the
table is not confusing at all.
> I think that web design has taken over content, which is pretty sad.
I don't see this at all. Content is the central focus of the site,
and of our discussion. "we" want to make this site accessible to
those who are not hackers or who didn't "grow up" with the site as it
changed over time. Those users want a clean, well-laid out website
that is easy to navigate and whose content is easy to comprehend. A
few quick glances should be sufficient for them to get a feel for how
to deal with the pages at the site.
> The Sympy,
> Octave, and GMP sites are all good, because they provide all a lot of
> content in a clean web design.
Again, 'de gustibus non est disputandum' :-} GMP is a bit cluttered,
to my taste. The others are fine, but have perhaps too much
content. I tend to feel that content should increase (become
denser?) as you navigate further into a site. At the same time, it's
easy to get too fluffy, so a site becomes like a soap opera, with
most of the content on each page being a rehash of content on
previous pages.
> So while you guys don't use lists and
> css with them and use tables for layout, I'll be out constructing a
> larger site using meta tags, Google sitemap, and Google webmaster
> tools. So it will interesting to see what happens.
This is not about tools; it *is* about content, and about making that
content accessible.
> Have fun forgetting
> about serious content and designing web pages that are not using
> modern code.
Lighten up a bit. Grouse in private, not on public lists.
Justin
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